EcoDiesel, A Maiden Voyage

[94BULLITT]

Big mirrors = Max tow

LT tires Doesn't necessary equal Max Payload. Max payload will have a GVWR of 8200 lbs and have 17" -7 lug wheels. I don't think you have the max payload option because it also requires the 6.5 bed with the supercrew and I don't think it is available with the FX4 package. I don't have the max payload option either and have a GVWR of 7350 and a payload sticker showing 1835 lbs. I wanted the max payload but didn't want the super stretched 6.5 bed with my supercrew.

I think max pay load will also have load range E tires.

 

[aczlan]

Delete the VIN off the end of this web address and put yours in for the window sticker.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...k-sOF60TSQur31AVQ&sig2=PXDOiRkMw02T5buPW-ddNg

Here is a direct link: http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FT8W3DT6DEA55309

Aaron Z

 

[94BULLITT]

That's pretty cool, how far back does that work?

I wanna think 2005-2008 but I am not 100% sure.

Here is a direct link: http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FT8W3DT6DEA55309

Thanks, I could not get the direct link from my tablet. It wanted to open it as a PDF.

Aaron Z

 

[paulharvey]

If the company were picking up the tab, why wouldn't you prefer the hemi? I assume they are buying the fuel as well right?

Just because I would like to see how the Eco-diesel does over weeks and months. I really wasn't at all impressed by the new hemi. It has power, but nothing special. It's fuel efficient, but once again nothing special. Maybe it's gears, or transmission, but it lacks the kick off the line of the Ford I used to drive.

 

[dodge man]

We have 3 new Fords at work. 4x4 extended cab(not crew cab) and we are getting around 13 to 14 mpg running around town. Its gets a lot better out on the highway but I'm not expecting them to get over 20 mpg on a regular basis.

I think the Eco-Diesel will continue to sell well but probably won't be a home run.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Not only are there no standard methods, I have not heard how ANY of the makers arrive at
their tow rating numbers. Is it how much heat an auto trans can dissipate? Is it how fast you
can go up a certain grade? Is it the duty cycle of a certain load at a certain speed without overheating
the engine? Is it how hot the brakes are allowed to get when stopping? What?

As for payload, I see why they are so small for pickups these days: the makers want them to
ride like a luxury car. I recall my first pickup, a 71 Datsun that had only a 1600cc engine and weighed
only about 2000#. Payload was over 1300#, but it rode like crap.

My data is old, but the last time I checked, the highest payload RATING on a "half-ton" pickup was
for the Honda Ridgline, a large funky V6 car with a bizzaro rear cargo area.

Everybody is adapting a standard in 2015. Nissan already is using the standard.

At the end of the day in the full size, Toyota and Nissan are almost rounding errors, GM wants to have a nice ride empty and it gets worse as it is loaded but can tow more than Dodge, but Dodge has airbags and rides nice but gets worse when loaded and Ford, rides stiff but gets better as it is loaded. Overly simplified: Ford packages itself as a work truck, Dodge as a city truck that hauls boats, and GM and a horse hauler. Right now I think that Dodge has the best front seat and Ford has the best rear seat in the crew cab in the $50K plus packages.

I'm interested in the 2015 Ford when everything gets lighter, increasing its payload and towing capabilities and Ford finally adds a heated steering wheel, a feature everybody else has offered for a long time.

My 2011 EB powered F150 is rated at 1660 pounds payload and 9800 pounds towing. I need it to be higher but loath buying a heavier truck with a diesel that isn't cost effective in comparison to the gasser version.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Big mirrors = Max tow

LT tires Doesn't necessary equal Max Payload. Max payload will have a GVWR of 8200 lbs and have 17" -7 lug wheels. I don't think you have the max payload option because it also requires the 6.5 bed with the supercrew and I don't think it is available with the FX4 package. I don't have the max payload option either and have a GVWR of 7350 and a payload sticker showing 1835 lbs. I wanted the max payload but didn't want the super stretched 6.5 bed with my supercrew.

I've always been baffled by the people who buy s a truck but don't want the long bed. Since other things tow just fine, what is the reason for a truck?

 

[jejeosborne]

I've always been baffled by the people who buy s a truck but don't want the long bed. Since other things tow just fine, what is the reason for a truck?

I guess I could ask you the same question. Why didn't you get the 8' bed? I have 4 trailers including my boat and needed 6 seats for family and friends. That ruled out the 8' bed. Then like I said, I didn't want to super stretch the already long supercrew another foot. My 5.5 foot bed swallows up 3 large dirt bikes that I haul over a thousand miles per year, my 4 wheeler while towing a camper, my tools and saws, plywood, etc when working my side home improvement business, muddy riding close on the return trips home, etc, etc, etc. In the 3 years of ownership, I have never wished I had the 6.5 bed because like you say, it can tow my 16 foot trailer for those needs. Be baffled no more, 5.5 bed works out great for many people.

Obviously many others have similar needs as mine since they sell a lot more 5.5 beds than they do 6.6 beds with the supercrew. If your bed is 6.5 feet, why didn't you step up and purchase the max tow and max payload options since you need extra capacity?

 

[sld]

Everybody has different needs but I would never own the 5.5' bed. I haul too much lumber and other things that require a longer bed. My F250 now is 80" and I can make it work for just about everything. When I get the F150 (looking at getting a 2015) the 6.5' (or 78") will be the bare minimum. Since a crew cab is a must, the 6.5' will be it.

I thought that the reason about 95% of crew cab F150's have the 5.5' bed is so it can fit in a standard garage. With a detached building I don't have to worry about that.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I guess I could ask you the same question. Why didn't you get the 8' bed? I have 4 trailers including my boat and needed 6 seats for family and friends. That ruled out the 8' bed. Then like I said, I didn't want to super stretch the already long supercrew another foot. My 5.5 foot bed swallows up 3 large dirt bikes that I haul over a thousand miles per year, my 4 wheeler while towing a camper, my tools and saws, plywood, etc when working my side home improvement business, muddy riding close on the return trips home, etc, etc, etc. In the 3 years of ownership, I have never wished I had the 6.5 bed because like you say, it can tow my 16 foot trailer for those needs. Be baffled no more, 5.5 bed works out great for many people.

Obviously many others have similar needs as mine since they sell a lot more 5.5 beds than they do 6.6 beds with the supercrew. If your bed is 6.5 feet, why didn't you step up and purchase the max tow and max payload options since you need extra capacity?

An 8' bed wasn't offered in 2011 with a crew cab. The max payload option wasn't available in the 157" WB in 2011 or I would have gotten it in heartbeat. I do have the max tow option. Remember in 2011, that was the first year of the EB engine and we were just happy to get an engine that didn't weigh a million pounds and made good torque numbers for towing.