Electric service to barn

   / Electric service to barn #71  
fishpick said:
SO I decided to use the existing 2" conduit... as we started to pull out the existing wires (CAT5, coax, and a horry story of a single Romex run... we noticed that there was water in the conduit - and by water I mean A LOT...

No matter how well you glue it, moisture and water will always get into underground conduits. That's why the NEC® requires the wires installed in conduits underground to be rated direct burial.
 
   / Electric service to barn #72  
woodlot said:
:eek: :eek: :eek: What was the cost to do that??? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Man, I sure wouldn't announce that in public, you'll have those unruly copper theives digging up your yard. You sure thats not AL wire?

Amen to that. I could build a shop for what that probably cost
 
   / Electric service to barn #73  
Cliff_Johns said:
So,
for 200A @ 330 ft, you're using 4/0 Copper
for 100A @ 170 ft, you're using 2/0 Copper

That seems backwards to me?

Cliff
Cliff wire sizes double in diameter as you change size. the sizes go from ( just to pick a random starting point) 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 0. with each smaller number being twice as big in diamater, then it starts back up again with 00 (2/0) 0000 (4/0) etc with each increase in the number of zeroes being a doubleing of the diameter when he says 4/0 that is just a shorthand for 0000 eventually it gets to where you just give the dimensions of the wire itself.
 
   / Electric service to barn #75  
fishpick said:
For all the help - kind words - and opinion sharing... I couldn't let you guys (and gals too) not know how it turned out... so...

Bluebird Meadow Farms: The Barn Power Project : Details

Short version - it works great! Thanks for all your help... And there are pictures on the other end of that link!

I saw the website thank you for the information. I am curious in the website it says you used #2 aluminum with a 100 amp breaker. I did not think that #2 aluminum was rated for 100 amps I figured you needed at least 1/0 or 2/0
or did you mean you used 2/0 wire ?
 
   / Electric service to barn
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#76  
It was - AL-URD Cable 3 Wire 2-2-4 100AMP... that's right from the Crown Electric receipt... which was right from what the electrical inspector told me to buy...
 
   / Electric service to barn #77  
buying what the electrical inspector tells you to is always one of the best ways to go. I am not an electrician so I would not try to tell someone they were wrong. Everything I read says that you have to go two wire sizes larger for aluminum than copper and if you are running 100 amp in copper it takes a size #2 gauge. Maybe one of the guys on here that have years of electrician experience can enlighten me.
 
   / Electric service to barn #78  
gemini5362 said:
buying what the electrical inspector tells you to is always one of the best ways to go. I am not an electrician so I would not try to tell someone they were wrong. Everything I read says that you have to go two wire sizes larger for aluminum than copper and if you are running 100 amp in copper it takes a size #2 gauge. Maybe one of the guys on here that have years of electrician experience can enlighten me.


Maybe a code book would enlighten you.
 
   / Electric service to barn #79  
What was the cost to do that???
I put in ~60' of triplex 4/0 AL 200A underground and 150' of #2? triplex AL 100A underground this spring for my barn and trailer power....

You can balpark the 4/0 at ~4$ per foot and half that for the #2.... Copper is about 75% more.

To reloacate my meter base off the old house the is comming down i had to

set a new pole
move the meter base
buy a 200A disconnect for at the pole
buy wire
buy conduit/fittings for sections that stick out of the ground at the ends
rent trencher
pay fee to have utilty hook me up.

grand total on my project by my estimate is nearly $1000
 
   / Electric service to barn #80  
mudcat said:
Maybe a code book would enlighten you.
Maybe it would but since I really dont need it I probably will not buy one. However from what I have been told and what I have read aluminum wire will not carry as much current as copper wire. That is why you need two wire sizes bigger when you are running aluminum. If that is not the case I would welcome someone that knows explaining it. That would probably be more helpful than the comment that I should get a code book.
 

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