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So the question of the hour...we have a 15 year old freezer and a 2 year old freezer.

Does anyone know of a reliable measurement device that can be used to verify the actual watts used by each for a comparison?
 
   / Electricity Price Increases #442  
Dude, that's crazy. We have 3000 sq feet with a heat pump. Two fridges and three freezers. Leave the house lights on the front of the garage burning 24/7/365. Electric stove, bread maker every day, wife that bakes a lot, every meal at home, electric coffee maker, electric tea kettle. Our highest usage month was less than 2200 kw last February when we were cranking out freeze dryer batches more or less continuously. We average more like 1300 per month and I'm always walking through the house flipping the lights off.
8400 sq.ft. here, and most of it is uninsulated field stone. House was built in four phases, starting in the 1730's.

We do have two heat pumps, but neither is doing much. One is heating my shop, built into a 1770's carriage barn, which is spray foamed but has large traditional uninsulated overhead doors. I'm only heating 1200 sq.ft. to something like 50 or 55F with that, so other than when I turn it up to 65F on a Saturday to do some work out there, it's usually not working that hard. The other is in a music studio over my garage, a converted attic space insulated with blown-in cellulose, and less than 300 sq.ft.

I suppose we have one bathroom up on the 4th floor that's heated with resistive electric, but on a timer for only a few hours each day. The rest of the heat is a mix of wood, oil, and propane.
 
   / Electricity Price Increases #443  
So the question of the hour...we have a 15 year old freezer and a 2 year old freezer.

Does anyone know of a reliable measurement device that can be used to verify the actual watts used by each for a comparison?
I will bet good money the 15 year old one will outlive the 2 year old one. :ROFLMAO:

The refrigerator my grandparents bought in 1953 is still running, as is the one my mom bought in the early 1980's. But each of our kitchen refrigerators bought in the last 10 years have died after only 2 - 4 years each.
 
   / Electricity Price Increases #444  
So the question of the hour...we have a 15 year old freezer and a 2 year old freezer.

Does anyone know of a reliable measurement device that can be used to verify the actual watts used by each for a comparison?
Kill-a-watt meter,or one of its many clones, was developed for this.

All the best, Peter
 
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   / Electricity Price Increases #446  
Thanks for the recommendations Peter and Carl.

And Mr. Winterdeere...you may be right on the short lifetime of the newer freezer, unfortunately, it's the one with 1/2 an Angus in it!
 
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I will bet good money the 15 year old one will outlive the 2 year old one. :ROFLMAO:

The refrigerator my grandparents bought in 1953 is still running, as is the one my mom bought in the early 1980's. But each of our kitchen refrigerators bought in the last 10 years have died after only 2 - 4 years each.
Have an upright freezer purchased 1982-83, still going and never been serviced. Don't think I would trade it for a new one today. Also have a side by side fridge from 1991,also never serviced. Going to run it till it stops
 
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Have an upright freezer purchased 1982-83, still going and never been serviced. Don't think I would trade it for a new one today. Also have a side by side fridge from 1991,also never serviced. Going to run it till it stops
knock on wood man...
 
   / Electricity Price Increases #449  
Thanks for the recommendations Peter and Carl.

And Mr. Winterdeere...you may be right on the short lifetime of the newer freezer, unfortunately, it's the one with 1/2 an Angus in it!

Your welcome - I have the less $30 plug in Killowatt with screen and plug all in one housing - which works fine for higher receptacles but if you have one low on the floor or behind a freezer the more pricey extension would be nice to have.

We had older Honeywell HEPA filters running constantly upstairs and downstairs, and between the replacement filters and running a constant speed, they were drawing 20KWH each per month, When the fan went in one, we replaced both with the BlueAire 311 with automatic fans and I checked using the Kilowat meter and it was much less 5-6 watts running on low and our electric bill dropped too!
 
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And Mr. Winterdeere...you may be right on the short lifetime of the newer freezer, unfortunately, it's the one with 1/2 an Angus in it!
Not to go on a rant of my personal issues here, but this is the most irritating thing about all of this. It's real easy to lose several hundred dollars or more in food, every time you wake up one morning to find the refrigerator cooking rather than cooling your food.

Also, we always bought our major appliances from a local family-owned chain (Gerhards, I grew up knowing Mr. Gerhard), not because they were cheaper, but because they would always take care of you with quick service when needed. But just as all the rest seem to be doing, we learned on a recent refrigerator failure, that they've now contracted out their service to one of these big service conglomerations. They told us our refrigerator failure is "probably" under warranty, but would need something like 10 days to even come diagnose the problem, before even making the warranty determination or ordering parts!

Not many can go 2+ weeks without their main kitchen refrigerator, we certainly didn't want to, so we ended up tossing a 1-something year old refrigerator and spending another $4k on a new one, just to avoid being without one all that time. When something like your main kitchen refrigerator goes, service should be same-day or next-day, at least as far as diagnosing the problem and getting any required parts on order. I don't even mind waiting a week for the completion of the repair, but waiting 10 days just to find out if it will be covered or repaired at a reasonable cost, is just not workable.

Your welcome - I have the less $30 plug in Killowatt with screen and plug all in one housing - which works fine for higher receptacles but if you have one low on the floor or behind a freezer the more pricey extension would be nice to have.
We have 3 Emporia Vue systems, which have been great, although I'm sure there's even newer or nicer tech out there today. Ours have 26 (I think?) clamp-on ammeter probes in each system, for the two mains and 24 (I think?) branch circuits. I just open the app on my phone and look at current or historical usage on any circuit, any time. It also monitors mains voltage, so you can plot in watts, kWh, or even dollars (if you enter your billing rate).
 

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