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Alan W.

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Came home the other day to find a semi load of ties setting in the highway with the flashers on. Stopped to see ifn he was needing help. All he said was outta hours and pointed to his electronic log. Im not a fan of electronic logs but this guy had just dove past some excellent pull off areas. I just left what can ya do.
 
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The 6 Ps- proper planning prevents piss pour performance.

The DOT rules for driving have been on the books for years. That dude is a little short of a full load.....
 
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So why in the highway?

Does the truck automatically come to a stop? ....so he's sitting in the highway unable to move.....because if he drove a couple hundred feet more that would be dangerous!!

That makes perfect sense!! Safety first!!

They should put this feature on passenger planes too. .

If they can program a shutdown, can't they program a limp mode?
 
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So why in the highway?

Does the truck automatically come to a stop? ....so he's sitting in the highway unable to move.....because if he drove a couple hundred feet more that would be dangerous!!

That makes perfect sense!! Safety first!!

They should put this feature on passenger planes too. .

If they can program a shutdown, can't they program a limp mode?
The drivers I have talked to say that they get an automatic ding if they keep driving after they run out of hours.
If they get pulled over or get an inspection that is listed when the officer looks at their record.

Aaron Z
 
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The drivers I have talked to say that they get an automatic ding if they keep driving after they run out of hours.
If they get pulled over or get an inspection that is listed when the officer looks at their record.

Aaron Z

I guess I don't understand why he would be setting in the highway. Just stop, put the flashers on, crawl in the sleeper and get some shuteye?
How long would he have to sit there?
 
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He was on the phone when I talked to him. I can only assume he was telling dispatch what was going on to get permission to proceed. What a lot of people do not understand is most companies have direct access to the logs and can 😇correct😇 them as they see fit. All electronic logs has changed is who can fudge them.
 
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I guess I don't understand why he would be setting in the highway. Just stop, put the flashers on, crawl in the sleeper and get some shuteye?
How long would he have to sit there?
Drivers get a lot of warning when their time is getting low. If the driver still does not stop when the time expires, the truck engine goes to idle.

After 10 hours of rest, the driver can put in another 11 hrs driving.

However, if said driver has logged 70 hrs in 7 consecutive days then they cannot drive again for 34 hours. AKA the 34 hr reset
 
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Came home the other day to find a semi load of ties setting in the highway with the flashers on. Stopped to see ifn he was needing help. All he said was outta hours and pointed to his electronic log. Im not a fan of electronic logs but this guy had just dove past some excellent pull off areas. I just left what can ya do.

Many use that excuse.

There are accommodations within the regs for situations like that.

He can drive to safe haven even if against his duty clock for the day.
 
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Drivers get a lot of warning when their time is getting low. If the driver still does not stop when the time expires, the truck engine goes to idle.

After 10 hours of rest, the driver can put in another 11 hrs driving.

However, if said driver has logged 70 hrs in 7 consecutive days then they cannot drive again for 34 hours. AKA the 34 hr reset

Or he could run recap hours based on previous 8th day.
 
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He was on the phone when I talked to him. I can only assume he was telling dispatch what was going on to get permission to proceed. What a lot of people do not understand is most companies have direct access to the logs and can ��correct�� them as they see fit. All electronic logs has changed is who can fudge them.

And how easily audited those logs are by DOT.

With hefty penalties.
 
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Several years ago the engineers on a train stopped in the middle of a nearby town, said their hours were up, they were waiting for replacements. I think the real story was the union had a dispute with the railroad. The tracks run through the middle of town and this happened when kids were on the way to school. So kids are crawling under the train to get to school, not exactly safe. The police got involved to make sure kids didn't get run over. They wrote the train a ticket. I don't know if they ever paid it or not.
 
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Several years ago the engineers on a train stopped in the middle of a nearby town, said their hours were up, they were waiting for replacements. I think the real story was the union had a dispute with the railroad. The tracks run through the middle of town and this happened when kids were on the way to school. So kids are crawling under the train to get to school, not exactly safe. The police got involved to make sure kids didn't get run over. They wrote the train a ticket. I don't know if they ever paid it or not.
Trains are federal so can't write them a ticket. They probably can arrest them and take them to booking and just let them go just to be an *** like the engineers.
 
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Our county tried to do something about crossings being tied up. A waste of time its federal and the state or locals have no jurisdiction. Dad was a conductor for Southern RW until retirement and I remember him talking about doggin, what they called out of hours, all the time but they would pull clear of crossings. They would split the train to clear a crossing ifn they had a hotbox or other problem.
 

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