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Engine ideas
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gravelymay
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Hi folks. I'm a newcomer around here. After reading this thread last week I ordered a 13HP Blue Max (Chinese clone) from Tulsa Engine Warehouse for $US 250 which included shipping. The engine just showed up tonight. I plan on putting it on my 1973 Superconvertible, which is of course a model L at heart. I wont be able to work on it until Spring but I'm trying to decide the approach I'm going to take. I've already PM'd Oldmech who filled me in on some details of his method. There are many great ideas for making adapters on this site. For now, I'm wondering if anyone has a dimensional drawing of the tranny gasket which shows the bolt pattern and the distance between the bolts. Also, if someone has such a drawing, where is the location of the drive pinion shaft relative to the bolts? If someone knows this and could post it, I'm sure many would be interested. Also, does anyone happen to know the overall length of the drive pinion bushing? The bushing i.d. is nominally 1" - does anyone know the nominal o.d.? Sorry for all the questions. I'm just just trying to gather some information so I can plan out what I want to do.
Thanks.
Rich
Hi Rich
I guess since you have your engine the next step is what speed do you want to run?
You can get a set of late model gear set up with cross over arm and go back to the speeds that you used to.
If you have a old engine half use it when you make your adapter then transfer the holes from it .
When you make the adapter you will need a seal or a surface to put a gasket on.
The other question is what equip do you plan to run?
If you run mower or snow blower will work great but your ground speed will change.
What model do you have?
Thanks Bruce g
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Oneaxepony
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I have what I believe is a standard L8 tractor. While I have several attachments like the rotary plow/cultivator and sickle bar, I'll really never use anything other than the mower. I have the tractor for fun, not work. I want to put on a new engine for a project - more fun. I'm in no particular hurry and cant do anything until Spring when it warms up a little, so I'm just gathering ideas for now. Thanks.
2manyrocks
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The rotary plow really does prepare a seedbed in one pass, but throws dirt everywhere without a dirt shield.
I've never seen the exact way of how it was done, but I've read that people used to remove the top of the old Gravely engines, and then bolt another engine to the top of the crankcase. They they'd drive the crank with a belt and pulley arrangement.
I've never seen the exact way of how it was done, but I've read that people used to remove the top of the old Gravely engines, and then bolt another engine to the top of the crankcase. They they'd drive the crank with a belt and pulley arrangement.
gravelymay
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You could repower and use the small gear Run at half throttle
and mow with it and just pull a trailer behind it
not much good for anything else.
Too fast
Bruce g
Hi Guys
I guess I am asleep I just through.
You can set your top gov speed at 2700 Rpm.
The 13 Hp has enough torque .
And it would not be a problem.
So the engine sticks out a little so what.
Get a short shaft engine.
I finally see the light.
We make a adapter for the transmission
And add donuts to take up the extra shaft length.
Between the adapter and the engine.
I think this may be able to do for about $200.00 plus engine.
We would need the old input crank end that goes into the trans.
We would have to drill through and put a counterbore in the end .
Also have to cut off 1 inch before the gear and mill a key in shaft
So we can use a cap screw through to the crank shaft to hole together
I can get a bushing 1 X 1 X 3 in long 1/4 key through
From Applied Industrial tech
well guys that is the plain that I think will work.
So speed don't matter set the gov so it wont over speed the equipment.
Thanks Bruce g
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gravelymay
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Sounds like worth looking into
Plenty power
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Plenty power
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gravelymay
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Is this the Engine that you was talking about?
That is a great engine and made by Fifan.
They make a good engine.
NEW 16HP Gas Engine Electric Start Side Shaft 16 HP - eBay (item 170461508621 end time Mar-22-10 13:23:33 PDT)
This will fit better then Honda because the air cleaner is down low.
If you are going to use in a lot dirt or dust I would Recommend a remote air filter.
For $369.00 Free shipping that Engine is a buy.
Thanks Bruce g
That is a great engine and made by Fifan.
They make a good engine.
NEW 16HP Gas Engine Electric Start Side Shaft 16 HP - eBay (item 170461508621 end time Mar-22-10 13:23:33 PDT)
This will fit better then Honda because the air cleaner is down low.
If you are going to use in a lot dirt or dust I would Recommend a remote air filter.
For $369.00 Free shipping that Engine is a buy.
Thanks Bruce g
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Is this the Engine that you was talking about?
That is a great engine and made by Fifan.
They make a good engine.
NEW 16HP Gas Engine Electric Start Side Shaft 16 HP - eBay (item 170461508621 end time Mar-22-10 13:23:33 PDT)
This will fit better then Honda because the air cleaner is down low.
If you are going to use in a lot dirt or dust I would Recommend a remote air filter.
For $369.00 Free shipping that Engine is a buy.
Thanks Bruce g
Yes thats what I was talking bout Bruce, heck of a deal in my opinion. I dont think I can buy the rebuild parts and have the machine work done for that money and as you have said everything is brand new. I saw that air cleaner and thought it would be pretty easy to go to a remote filter assembly if its not up to the task.
gravelymay
Gold Member
Hi Guys
Well today I was thinking again.or a brain fart.
The Kolher adapter fits on the old L transmission.
Just drill new mount holes
The top hole won't be used.
Then we can put spacer 008 adapters for the length of the
crank shaft on like I do the C10A and up.
Then all we have to do work on is the crank shaft.
They sell a coupling 1 dia. that will fit over the
forward part of the model L crank shaft.
Cut the crank into 1in before the gear mill 1/4 key slot up to the gear.
Drill the gear though and counter bore the end.
To fit a 3/8 X 24 cap Screw.
long enough to go all through to hold it all together.
This is my latest Cheapest Idea.
Any Ideas welcome
Thanks Bruce g
423 716 4611
Well today I was thinking again.or a brain fart.
The Kolher adapter fits on the old L transmission.
Just drill new mount holes
The top hole won't be used.
Then we can put spacer 008 adapters for the length of the
crank shaft on like I do the C10A and up.
Then all we have to do work on is the crank shaft.
They sell a coupling 1 dia. that will fit over the
forward part of the model L crank shaft.
Cut the crank into 1in before the gear mill 1/4 key slot up to the gear.
Drill the gear though and counter bore the end.
To fit a 3/8 X 24 cap Screw.
long enough to go all through to hold it all together.
This is my latest Cheapest Idea.
Any Ideas welcome
Thanks Bruce g
423 716 4611