Engine ideas

[Detroit 60]

Can anyone give me the contact details of Bruce Livingston in New Zealand regarding the Gravely to Honda adaptor plates. Thanks Andrew

 

[gravelymay]

Can anyone give me the contact details of Bruce Livingston in New Zealand regarding the Gravely to Honda adaptor plates. Thanks Andrew

Did you every fine him??


Bruce Guthrie

 

[Detroit 60]

Did you every fine him??


Bruce Guthrie

Hello Gravelymay, Yes I found him by another person who gave me an old email address that was still good, and he is alive and well and has all the parts to convert an L series to a Honda type motor, My old Studebaker engine is already at 0.040" oversize on the cylinder and is now needing a rebuild but I think a Chinese Honda might be better as I would be "Loathed" to retire the mower as there is nothing of this "Quality" available today.
Cheers Andrew from NZ

 

[Gravely from Czech]

Hi all

I have GRAVELY LS need help

I wanna ask you, becouse I made repowering too, change the original Gravely engine for new Honda GX200. At original GRAVELY with original engine, there was transmission lubricated from engine. How can I lubricated transmission when I use new Honda GX200? Can you help me please?

Thanks you very much!

Martin

 

[Detroit 60]

Hi all

I have GRAVELY LS need help

I wanna ask you, becouse I made repowering too, change the original Gravely engine for new Honda GX200. At original GRAVELY with original engine, there was transmission lubricated from engine. How can I lubricated transmission when I use new Honda GX200? Can you help me please?

Thanks you very much!

Martin

Try shebru@paradise.net.nz for Bruce Livingston

 

[js5020]

Hi all

I have GRAVELY LS need help

I wanna ask you, becouse I made repowering too, change the original Gravely engine for new Honda GX200. At original GRAVELY with original engine, there was transmission lubricated from engine. How can I lubricated transmission when I use new Honda GX200? Can you help me please?

Thanks you very much!

Martin

This isn't an issue when repowering an L model other than blocking off the original oil lines, many use pipe plugs to close up any line connections on the transmission housing, all newer model 2 wheel Gravelys (after the L) used splash lube in the transmission.

 

[Gravely from Czech]

Thank you very much for comment

Bruce from N.Zealand said:

When replacing the old Studebaker engine (with oil pump)
for a Honda or similar: you must use between 4.5 and 5
litres of engine oil in the transmission. When you do this,
be careful with changing mower or cultivator as it will spill
out.

So, I fill it with oil 10W30 and it´s ok.

 

[js5020]

Jeeze I forgot that important info on the additional oil in the trans, yes if I remember correctly my Kohler tractor uses 4 qts and it is engine oil, do not use gear oil as most of the stuff available has additives that are harmful to the brass gear.

 

[shallowwatersailor]

FYI: I have three Simplicity two-wheel tractors and my Gravely attachments that require GL-4 gear oil. I was able to find it a NAPA.

 

[js5020]

Yes if you locate the "special" stuff (GL4) that works, wont eat the brass gear. Last I know from those into Gravelys said engine oil for the trans also.

 

[gravelymay]

Hi all

I have GRAVELY LS need help

I wanna ask you, becouse I made repowering too, change the original Gravely engine for new Honda GX200. At original GRAVELY with original engine, there was transmission lubricated from engine. How can I lubricated transmission when I use new Honda GX200? Can you help me please?

Thanks you very much!

Martin

HI Martin
Sorry I just now read your reply,
This may help a little.

 

[js5020]

Very nice write up Bruce.

 

[buickanddeere]

Yes if you locate the "special" stuff (GL4) that works, wont eat the brass gear. Last I know from those into Gravelys said engine oil for the trans also.

Just use 50 or 60wt motor oil. It's as thick or thicker than 90wt gear oil, is readily avaliable and is yellow metal friendly.

 

[js5020]

Just use 50 or 60wt motor oil. It's as thick or thicker than 90wt gear oil, is readily avaliable and is yellow metal friendly.

I believe that would work also. There were many viscosities recommended over the years and quite honestly as long as the oil is "yellow metal friendly" the quantity in the axle is more important than anything,,, nothing tears out planetaries (expensive) quicker than the lack of lubrication! Thicker oils may pose problems in very cold climates, the old L model transaxles were pressure lubed along with the engine and the change to Kohler engines left the transaxle with splash lube also.

 

[Seriousnz]

I believe that would work also. There were many viscosities recommended over the years and quite honestly as long as the oil is "yellow metal friendly" the quantity in the axle is more important than anything,,, nothing tears out planetaries (expensive) quicker than the lack of lubrication! Thicker oils may pose problems in very cold climates, the old L model transaxles were pressure lubed along with the engine and the change to Kohler engines left the transaxle with splash lube also.

Thought I might add something to this. If you are converting an early type L ( from the 40s or 50s) , you may not be aware that that the advance casting (L202) has narrow apertures for oil to pass through to the clutch. Later versions of this part are relieved more generously. Gravely may just have been lowering material costs and it may be co-incidence that they gave up their own engine, with consequent loss of oil pump but it makes sense to me that they would improve circulation as a matter of course.

I don't worry about originality when building machines to be used on a regular basis. I use multi grade engine oil and with my own go-to machine (still on its original GX 340 nearly 20 years later) which lives outside under a plastic cover, I change the oil every 3 years or so to purge the condensate.

Forgot to mention, the two versions of L202 are interchangeable.