Oil & Fuel Engine Oil for BX2350

[MessickFarmEqu]

I never said I've got issue with Rotella. Its a quality product. Everything I've ever heard says go ahead and use it. Its the non-synethic oils formulated for cars/trucks that are problematic.

 

[Mustangous]

never said you did. My point is just because the oil says kubota, doesnt mean that is all you can use.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

never said you did. My point is just because the oil says kubota, doesnt mean that is all you can use.

Yea, thats exactly what I said too. The 2nd half of that statement is that you should still be using a quality oil.

 

[Sully2]

Think what you want, know that your ignoring the advice of people who go to seminars and classes on this kinda stuff, and hear lectures by the engineers who work up the formulations of the oils. Yes, Kubota, New Holland, Deere or whoever is not out pumping oil. They do however use blends that are very different than whats used for on road machines. As was said, tractors typically work at 80-100% of their ratted load, cars are trucks are typically at 20-30%. If you went and ran a pickup at 100% load the engine would burn up after a few hours. Tractor Trailers would be running similar blends to what you see in tractors, and likely at similar expense (if not more). Most of their trucks are using cummins/fleetguard fiters which are not cheap. Thus... stopping at Autozone for the stuff to service your tractor is not a good idea.

Thats funny? Why do I see Kubota oil and NH oil and Shell Rotella and Chevron Delo all on my Kubota dealer shelf then? Whomever is telling you that ..in this case Kuboyta oil...is some "special blend"..etc..that no one else is making/ consuming is blowing a cloud of smoke up your backside partner!
And if you think over the road semis are running at 20-30% of the max RPM..I suggest you try a few miles behind the wheel of one looking at the tach! I run my Cummins 330 HP at 1700-1750 and it has a 2200 RPM redline....just a "tad more" than the 30% power level!!!

I buy Chevrom for $9.95 a gallon as compared to the POOR quality Kubota 10W-30 at almost $12 a gallon!!

 

[Sully2]

never said you did. My point is just because the oil says kubota, doesnt mean that is all you can use.

Doesnt mean its worth a damm either....just means that it passes the MINIMUM quality levels that Kubota will approve

 

[Mustangous]

Doesnt mean its worth a damm either....just means that it passes the MINIMUM quality levels that Kubota will approve

Your right, but i havent seen any facts about Kubota oil so I wont say if its good or bad!

 

[crabjoe]

The owners manual should tell you the API rating you need to use, so just use the oil that has the correct API rating.

BTW, many trucking companies don't change oil based on mileage. They change based on oil analysis. If you want to go this route, I recommand using Blackstone. I say Blackstone, because that's who I use.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Whomever is telling you that ..in this case Kuboyta oil...is some "special blend"..etc..that no one else is making/ consuming is blowing a cloud of smoke up your backside partner!

Clearly millions of dollars have been thown away over the years, becuase apparently they've just got a bunch of guys pee'ing into all those 5 gallon buckets.

In about two weeks you'll be able to log-on to our website and watch an hour long presentation from our open house last year. Its presented to about a hundred farmers by Bill Zobel of Viscosity Oil. They are the research and development company that New Holland uses to come up with the blends that go into tractors.

I don't know how else to make it more clear. Oil is not all the same. Its much more evident with hydraulic fluid than engine oil. Take New Holland 134 Hydraulic oil, and Kubota SUDT. SUDT is almost double the price, and its not because Kubota is trying to fleece on you on it. SUDT is a synthetic blend thats very different than 134 which is a straight oil with a heavy additive package. When you flip flop these in particular machine you can tell. Stick 134 in a Kubota RTV900 and you'll known in an instant.

I'm not saying that an OEM branded oil is some magic tractor juice. I am saying that it is blended for these companies, and your not buying the same stuff at TSC with a different sticker on the pail. Thats not to say that it won't work, it most cases you can't tell. However, it absolutly is not the same thing.


See those tanks... thats about half of them. We buy oil by the tanker. The blue sticker is New Holland 30w, the big one in the back is 134 hydraulic fluid.

 

[Mustangous]

I don't know how else to make it more clear. Oil is not all the same. Its much more evident with hydraulic fluid than engine oil. Take New Holland 134 Hydraulic oil, and Kubota SUDT. SUDT is almost double the price, and its not because Kubota is trying to fleece on you on it. SUDT is a synthetic blend thats very different than 134 which is a straight oil with a heavy additive package. When you flip flop these in particular machine you can tell. Stick 134 in a Kubota RTV900 and you'll known in an instant.

How could you compare the two? you said it yourself, totally different oil!

SUDT is a synthetic blend thats very different than 134 which is a straight oil with a heavy additive package.

Full synthetic is usually 100% more and a blend is usually 50% more than regular oils. So a blend that is double the price is too much.

Clearly millions of dollars have been thown away over the years, becuase apparently they've just got a bunch of guys pee'ing into all those 5 gallon buckets.

They have those millions because of all the nieve people buying it. If no one bought that over priced oil then i bet they would cut the whole oil department out.

come on.. Kubota banged me over the head for $45 for 1 set of quick connects and i found the same brand for $15 online(heres the like if anyone is interested:72N4-4F Male fitting and 72N4-4F Female fitting). They wanted $26 and change for a diesel container that is under $15 at home depot and even cheaper at walmart. So you know the oil is the same way.... Sorry for feeling resentful, but i feel like I was taken advantage of. I dont mind paying a little more for conienence and supporting my local stealer, I mean dealer, but i could of overnighted it for less.

Messick, I am sure there arent doubters that the kubota or new holland oil are good, thats not the issue. If they have their name on it then it SHOULD be desent if not good since they have to warrenty it. Its easy for joe shmoe to walk into you dealer and say, hey i need oil for such and such and they get it. Its just plan easy and they pay for that. They cant walk into a local parts store or walmart and ask the same question and get an educated answer. But if an educated person researches some info on the web then they could. Thats what the original poster is doing. He already knew that Kubota oil is sufficient, but was looking for other options and opinions. I'm not knocking the quality of the oil.

 

[Volfandt]

To address the OP's question, I use Kubota branded oil(s) myself. The 10w30 engine oil and SUDT for the HST. I also use OEM filters. My primary reasons are, and in my case, it's a once a yr change for the engine oil and filter and 2 to 3 yr interval on the HST oil & filter so it's not brakeing my bank to use OEM. I get piece of mind plus a reason to visit the dealer to see the new offerings. The Kubota branded oil costs about the same as the Mobile 1 syn I put in my auto's and if I were to change brand's I'd go w/the Mobil 1 Truck & Diesel syn.
Since I don't have to add one single drop of oil to the engine between changes (going on 340 hrs) the Kubota branded oil seems to be doing a fine job..

Theres been many posts on this subject with folks that have chosen to go w/Rotella, Rotella T, Mobil 1, Mobil 1 Truck & SUV, Royal Purple, Amsoil, etc etc etc and there hasn't been an engine failure related to a specific brand of oil OR filter yet. There HAS been numerous postings on which HST fluid is better for the BX series and SUDT has won hands down. Although Chevron's synthetic UDT alternative has been reported to quiet down HST whine.

Basically, as long as the engine oil meets Kubota's listed diesel specs you should be OK.