Ever have one of those days?

Ozarker · Apr 1, 2005

Yes...I had a similar day just two days ago but without the tickets. Blew out the left rear tire on my F150 on the way to work. Pulled over to change it and saw the tire was totaled. Had a 6" split in the side wall so I decided to drive it a few hundered feet to get into a parking lot to change it. What the heck? Can't hurt the tire any more than it already is and I hate changing tires on the road.

Got the spare that has been hanging under the back of the truck since it was new in 1995 and the spare was flat. Called my wife to leave work to come over and take me to a station to air up the spare. Went to two different stations and both had air stations that were out of order.

So I had her take me to Walmart where I bought a 12V air compressor, went back to the truck, pumped up the spare and finally got to work 2 1/2 hours late.

After work I bought 4 new tires and had a new valve stem installed in the spare to replace the leaking one.

CajunRider · Apr 1, 2005

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I'm almost afraid to go to bed tonight, I'll probably have a nightmare seeing a State Trooper chasing me on my property with another New Holland tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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To go with your nightmare dream I think da State Trooper would be driving a grey market tractor or sumting. Ya can't let such a guy drive a New Holland. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Your story is one of the reason why I moved to a small town. A few years back my car broke down on the way to the air port. The cop took me and LadyRider to the air port so I could catch my flight. Later on our mechanic friend picked the car up and even went to get LadyRider home.

Rural living means you have to care for your neighbors more but what handsome payback we sometime get.

LMTC · Apr 1, 2005

Umm, I may be off base here, but do we need a DL in Ohio to change a tire? Were you driving when he cited you for expired DL? Since you're going to contact an atty anyway, consider a not guilty on that one...you were not driving on an expired license when the trooper came upon you; as far as earlier goes, you are not required to incriminate yourself, so don't. Once your attorney disposes of that, the trooper's second ticket now becomes suspect by implication. I would follow the lead of my atty on that, but my instinct is you've got hope here.

EddieWalker · Apr 1, 2005

( Umm, I may be off base here, but do we need a DL in Ohio to change a tire? Were you driving when he cited you for expired DL? Since you're going to contact an atty anyway, consider a not guilty on that one...you were not driving on an expired license when the trooper came upon you; as far as earlier goes, you are not required to incriminate yourself, so don't. Once your attorney disposes of that, the trooper's second ticket now becomes suspect by implication. I would follow the lead of my atty on that, but my instinct is you've got hope here. )

LMTC,

That's pretty clever advice. You must be the guy who figures out the mystery movies half way through them. When I read Mike's post, I totally overlooked that part.

Sure would like to here the outcome it he goes that route.

Eddie

PineRidge · Apr 1, 2005

Well we were sitting in the car at the time making the cell phone call. But that doesn't constitute driving in my book. This just might work thanks for the advice!

Junk you're not making my day any better here buddy.

I have the day to myself and a full tank of diesel in the TC-40D, the sun is shining, and I can almost hear the woods calling my name. I'm out of here folks time to go play with the grapple! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

homeinwestIL · Apr 1, 2005

( Umm, I may be off base here, but do we need a DL in Ohio to change a tire? Were you driving when he cited you for expired DL? Since you're going to contact an atty anyway, consider a not guilty on that one...you were not driving on an expired license when the trooper came upon you; as far as earlier goes, you are not required to incriminate yourself, so don't. Once your attorney disposes of that, the trooper's second ticket now becomes suspect by implication. I would follow the lead of my atty on that, but my instinct is you've got hope here. )

Good thought, but I doubt it will work. He had probably already admitted to the trooper that he was driving or the trooper wouldn't have given him a ticket. Trooper can testify to that admission in a trial. Trooper doesn't have to see him driving. As for the wife's ticket, would be hard to beat if Trooper got her on radar. If she's got a clean driving record, most states have some system where you can avoid having the ticket show up as a conviction on your record. In Illinois, they call it supervision. You still plead guilty and pay the fine (sometimes a higher fine) but if you don't get another ticket on your record within a certain period (6 mos or so), the ticket is dismissed. I don't know if Ohio has something like this, but most states do. Good luck.

LMTC · Apr 1, 2005

If he admitted driving to the Trooper he incriminated himself without counsel, and he can (unless "Mirandized" & arrested, which apparently didn't happen) get around that. He can infer (I am philosophically opposed to lying) that were the wife driving, most men, while waiting for the tow truck, would have the wife move over and take the outside (closest to traffic) seat themselves, just to be protective. Up to him, but if I was going to pay an attorney to modify the severity of ticket two, he'd earn it by dispensing with ticket one. And I still think that if that gets done, you have better odds with ticket two. Just MHO fwiw.

LarryD · Apr 1, 2005

I tried this same argument many years ago when a game warden cited me for transporting a loaded weapon.

When he came upon me, I was sitting on the tailgate of my truck and the rifle was behind the seat. He checked my liscense and the tagged deer. He asked to see the rifle and I figured he was doing a simple calibre check, three rounds in the magazine constitutes loaded and in the cab was transporting /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif.

After listening to several yahoos irritate the judge, she didn't even want to hear my lame excuses (I grew up in Texas) and kept a very nice Remington 700 BDL /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif.

LBrown59 · Apr 1, 2005

Meanwhile a State Trooper stops to see if I need a hand. He routinely checks my drivers license and we both quickly realize that my driver's license expired on my birthday last January. :
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This is not a moving violation - you weren't driving with out a license.
There is no law prohibiting a license to expire.
skinderflirt

LBrown59 · Apr 1, 2005

( Umm, I may be off base here, but do we need a DL in Ohio to change a tire? Were you driving when he cited you for expired DL? Since you're going to contact an atty anyway, consider a not guilty on that one...you were not driving on an expired license when the trooper came upon you; as far as earlier goes, you are not required to incriminate yourself, so don't. Once your attorney disposes of that, the trooper's second ticket now becomes suspect by implication. I would follow the lead of my atty on that, but my instinct is you've got hope here. )
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Yer right.
Pine ridge was under no obligation to even show the trooper a license.