extended warrantys

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bayoubilly

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hi last june i bought a MF 1428v TLBH after lots of research and reading post here. 1st Q. at TBN. are the extended warrantys worth the money? am i just betting against myself?all opinions welcome. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Greetings,

My basic philosophy on extended warranties is:

a) They wouldn't sell them if they didn't make money on them -- i.e. at your expense
b) If something is wrong with an item it will usually show up fairly early in its life -- i.e. within the basic warranty period

So I generally avoid them.

Having said that, I bought the extended tire and wheel warranty on a sports car because they said the tires and wheels are really expensive ($300 and $800 respectively) and if you get a flat with a low profile tire the wheel often hits the ground and gets damaged too. So two flats and one damaged wheel later, I think the $200 warranty was worth it. Not that this has any relevance to your tractor but it makes me feel good. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Thanks for listening,

Rod
 
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I ususally don't buy them. But that is just me, really depends on the item. But i figure the extended warrenty is in the manufactures or issuing agents favor, or else they would not offer them. READ THE FINE PRINT
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( hi last june i bought a MF 1428v TLBH after lots of research and reading post here. 1st Q. at TBN. are the extended warrantys worth the money? am i just betting against myself?all opinions welcome. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif )</font>

When I was young and naive, I bought them (mostly for electronics). Now that I'm older and wiser, I know better. It's a great deal for whoever sells the warranty (which is why it's not just the manufacturers selling them these days). However, I did recently make an exception. Our 2001 Ford Windstar had had numerous problems, and according to Consumer Reports it had a very shotty reliability record. I bought the extended warranty just before the 3 year warranty expired because I knew it would pay for itself. It did in the first 18 months.
 
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I'm not a big fan of extended warranties. I feel that if there are problems they usually show up within the regular warranty period and that's been true for me in most cases. However, I bought a new 2002 Tahoe that comes with a 3yr, 36000 mile warranty and I did buy an extended warranty on the Tahoe. I have almost 48,000 miles on it. Last month there was a strange noise coming from the front end...took it to the dealer, something wrong with the gears in the front differential...a $982 repair covered by the extended warranty. Last week the AC compressor went out...a $1100 repair job covered by the extended warranty. The warranty cost was $795. I'm glad I bought the warranty. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I also have a 2000 Chevy 1 ton truck with over 90,000 miles and I have not had a major repair on it. I didn't buy an extended warranty on this one. I guess I have just been lucky.

Extended warranties are like health insurance I guess. You don't want it. You don't want to pay for it. But it's nice to have when you need it.
 
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Being in the automotive repair field I dont recommend them.
Consumer Reports doesn't recommend them.
Your money would be better off earning interest and you could dictate your own repairs.
Most warranty companies whittle the job down to the bare minimum.
For example a new strut on ONE side of a vehicle when two makes the job balanced.
Telling you the reason a valve burned is the customers fault.
What can you do when they say no???
The large print giveth, the fine print taketh away.
The glitzy brochure and the salesman will make you think everythings covered and the actual contract is 3 pages of fine print about whats excluded and is worded in their favor.
I have see a few of them go out of business and the customer was screwed.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Being in the automotive repair field I dont recommend them.
Consumer Reports doesn't recommend them.
Your money would be better off earning interest and you could dictate your own repairs.
Most warranty companies whittle the job down to the bare minimum.
For example a new strut on ONE side of a vehicle when two makes the job balanced.
Telling you the reason a valve burned is the customers fault.
What can you do when they say no???
The large print giveth, the fine print taketh away.
The glitzy brochure and the salesman will make you think everythings covered and the actual contract is 3 pages of fine print about whats excluded and is worded in their favor.
I have see a few of them go out of business and the customer was screwed. )</font>

I believe Consumer Reports does say you may want to consider one if your vehicle make has a poor reliability history, although their more general recommendation is that the money is better saved away for future repairs, as you suggested.

I haven't had any issues with my covered repairs yet (and there have been quite a few). I did read the fine print (more than once). However, I haven't had a repair yet that could possibly be blamed on not following the maintenance schedule.
 
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I don't buy extended warranties most of the time.. unless my wife is using the equipment /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif.

I figure the company qc dept has run the life expectancy numbers and put the ex warranty program past the HEF rate.. but before the MBF rate.. inother words.. they arebetting against the numbers..and they have the data to view when making the bet...

Soundguy
 
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You're right, it's sort of a dice roll. I think others are correct as well in that on a lot of items they are nothing but added profit for the retailer. However, I always look at the actuarial data before I advise a friend or relative whether to buy one. As to not offend anyone, I won't post here in public the statistical worst offenders (the ones that need a service contract in a bad way). With certain brands and, especially particular models within that brand, it's a rather poor decision to not buy a service contract.

Not to be nit-picky, but you can't buy a warranty. By law, a warranty is part of the selling price of the item you are buying, and cannot be negotiated out. A service contract is something you can either add to the warranty, or is put on the item by the dealer and can be negotiated out. This falls under the jurisdiction of the FTC and is regulated by the Magnuson-Moss act.

Also, with service contracts, there are only two types; a named peril contract, and an exclusionary contract. A "named peril" contract does just what it says, it specifically names the peril (break down or failure) that it will cover. Only those items are covered. Read; if it is not listed, it is not covered. The exclusionary contract is the opposite, it specifically names only those items which are not covered. Read, if it is not listed, it is covered. Period.

Now, armed with that knowledge (which is likely more than the guy trying to sell you the contract has), and being armed with the statistical data of the frequency and severity of repairs for the item which you are buying, you can then make an intelligent decision as to whether purchasing a contract would be a good choice for you or not. Be sure to ask if it is a named peril or an exclusionary contract, and also if the contract is reinsured by an A rated company by A.M. Best. I personally don't care for named peril contracts and absolutely would not consider a contract unless there is an A rated company backing them. Clear? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I tend to dicourage the purchase of them on electronics, but if you are buying a new vehicle and planning on keeping it for a while, then by all means get the warranty. I don't want a four or five year vehicle payment with a three year warranty. So far, I have been successful with getting my car dealer to meet me half way when it comes to getting an extended warranty. Two or three hundred bucks over 48 or 60 months is not very much, and it is certainly cheaper than an $1100 transmission. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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