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   / Failure to yeild..... #21  
I did not find any humor in the voice mail. #1: I did not believe it was real. #2: Who would sit by and watch a defenseless person get beat? If it is true, the guy has very good case with an eye wittness. Unless the wittness is too chicken for that also.
 
   / Failure to yeild..... #22  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There's places all over the country that have ordinances for volume a stereo in a car )</font>

In general though.. noise ordinances are very hard to enforce.

Right now in florida, county noise ordinances are falling like flies.. "unconstitutional / too vauge" language.

One of the problems for most transient noise sources are the duration. lots of laws state 'X' db for 'X' minutes.

A loud thumping bass that drives by is annoying.. but doesn't meet the time minimum. Same with dirt bike tracks near residential areas... peak db is high.. average db is low...

Soundguy
 
   / Failure to yeild..... #23  
I can't even begin to count the times people have done this to me. I tend to be one of the slower emergency drivers on my department, mostly because I spend a lot of time watching for people to do exactly this. Some days I'd swear someone turned the truck invisible. You would think a 50 foot long, 60,000 pound ladder truck, painted bright red, covered with strobe lights and reflective striping, with two air horns, two electronic sirens, and a mechanical Federal "Q" siren wouldn't be too hard to notice.

As much as we carp about the apparently deaf little old ladies, all kinds of drivers cause us problems. We have the guy on the cell phone, busy mom trying to corral screaming kids, people who have their music so loud they can't hear us, and on and on. My personal "favorite" is the driver who, oblivious to us behind them, can't figure out why all the cars ahead of him are slowing down and pulling over. Look, everyone's pulling over for me! Of course he then pulls to the left to clear them and directly into my path.

Of course, some just can't bear the inconvenience of missing the stoplight, so they squeeze through the intersection just ahead of us. Might have had to wait an extra minute at the light otherwise, and we just can't have that. One incident that really sticks in my mind (I wasn't driving for this one) was when, while running lights and sirens, we swung wide into the left lane to gain clearance for a tight right turn. As we started to swing right, the driver and I simultaneously saw two cars of teenagers passing us on the right. One of our best drivers was at the wheel that day, and only his quick reaction kept us from wrecking two civilian cars and a $700,000 ladder truck, likely with severe injuries or loss of life.

Same rules apply on the road as in tractoring: take your time, don't get in a hurry, and pay attention to what is happening around you.
 
   / Failure to yeild..... #24  
At trhe risk of sounding like "Devil's Advocate"

I recently got into a similar discussion at another site. Obviously I pull over if you are coming up behind me; but what if a line of cars is sitting at a stop light? This happened to me this summer on a 4 lane highway. Rather than blowing throurgh the red light I stayed put (forcing those behind me to do the same), alowing the ambulance to go around us in the oncoming lane. After all he's got sirens, air horn, and presumably advanced training; besides, it's much easier to predict the actions af a stopped motorist. Others argued that I (and the lines of cars behind) should have run the light and gotten out of the way.
 
   / Failure to yeild..... #25  
If you are already stopped at the light, stay there. Do not run the light. You were correct when you said that the driver of the emergency vehicle will go around you. In many (but not all) cases, the emergency vehicle will have what is called an opticom, which (if the stop light has a receiver) will trigger the light to turn green in his direction. He can therefore proceed through the intersection without (supposedly) worrying about traffic to the left or right. Obviously if you are moving on down the road and encounter an emergency vehicle, pull over to the right and stop.

Hope that made sense.

Bonehead
 
   / Failure to yeild..... #26  
Another huge factor these days is simply how quiet some of these interiors are of these new cars. There could be a bomb going off out side and you might not know.
With technology thats availible today there has to be a better answer.

-dave
 
   / Failure to yeild..... #27  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Another huge factor these days is simply how quiet some of these interiors are of these new cars. There could be a bomb going off out side and you might not know.
With technology thats availible today there has to be a better answer. )</font>

You wouldn't be talkin' 'bout that grill mounted laser beam would ya? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Failure to yeild..... #28  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( With technology thats availible today there has to be a better answer.
)</font> GPS, Navstar, black boxes... perhaps cars should be equipped with a reciever that announces "Pull over, fool!" when an EV is approaching. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 

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