Feelings on Gyrotrac
- Thread starter Schwartz04
- Start date
- Views: 28485
undercutter
New member
- Joined
- Jan 29, 2008
- Messages
- 11
jb,
That makes a lot of sense! I'm sticking with it unless something better comes along.
That makes a lot of sense! I'm sticking with it unless something better comes along.
Eagleview
Veteran Member
Not trying to hijack the thread but i see mention of an excavator for mulching . Ive been looking for a new excavator track base to build a PTO shredding machine but can't find one . What i did find was a new Chinese 23ton excavator at the right price with a Cummins 5.9L , Kawasaki pumps etc . It puts out 252 litres per minute , can't remember the pressure . Would i be better off putting a head on that instead ? Would a disc slasher be better than a drum cutter for right of way work ? I watched a vidieo on the Slashbuster 480 but did'nt like the flex in the third boom . I also like the vertical tree extraction grab for removing large trees roots and all instead of mulching them . Any thoughts ?
Robbie Hegwood
Platinum Member
Okay One question at a time.
1. Power pack is an aux. motor/hyd unit mounted on the back of a excavator dedicated to run only the head, the excavator motor runs just the excavator. Great mulching power at double the fuel burn. Yesterday here in GA highway diesel 3.92, not a very effecient way to mulch. Denis Cimaf heads are designed to run off existing hyd power and do so without excessive overheating. Simply a more efficent design!
2. We have a new model in testing just for the 8 ton class and up excavator such as the Kubota 080. It is currently being tested on that unit. Reports and pictures soon to come. No power packs needed and we can mulch with the best of them.
3. Barko makes a BAD tractor! If you would like to see the most productive mulching monster made put one of our heads on that barko and get out of the way. I hope to have one mounted on a Prentice 2864 soon and can give feedback. 100" cutting width, twin hyd motors, 85 GPM @ about 5000psi. I have seen one of these units personally mulch 3 12" hardwoods at once and not bog down, that was impressive.
4. Iron horse, I would absolutely recommend putting a mulching head on your excavator. It would make excellent use of the excavator and I'm posititve you would be pleased if you ran a Cimaf head on it. We make heads for every imcrement of excavator form 8 ton and up. We size the head for your tractor and send a tech to put it into service to tune the head to your tractor! If your mulching the tree from the top down you do not need to pull it up or cut into sections. PM me your address and we'll send you a packet and you can see for yourself.
1. Power pack is an aux. motor/hyd unit mounted on the back of a excavator dedicated to run only the head, the excavator motor runs just the excavator. Great mulching power at double the fuel burn. Yesterday here in GA highway diesel 3.92, not a very effecient way to mulch. Denis Cimaf heads are designed to run off existing hyd power and do so without excessive overheating. Simply a more efficent design!
2. We have a new model in testing just for the 8 ton class and up excavator such as the Kubota 080. It is currently being tested on that unit. Reports and pictures soon to come. No power packs needed and we can mulch with the best of them.
3. Barko makes a BAD tractor! If you would like to see the most productive mulching monster made put one of our heads on that barko and get out of the way. I hope to have one mounted on a Prentice 2864 soon and can give feedback. 100" cutting width, twin hyd motors, 85 GPM @ about 5000psi. I have seen one of these units personally mulch 3 12" hardwoods at once and not bog down, that was impressive.
4. Iron horse, I would absolutely recommend putting a mulching head on your excavator. It would make excellent use of the excavator and I'm posititve you would be pleased if you ran a Cimaf head on it. We make heads for every imcrement of excavator form 8 ton and up. We size the head for your tractor and send a tech to put it into service to tune the head to your tractor! If your mulching the tree from the top down you do not need to pull it up or cut into sections. PM me your address and we'll send you a packet and you can see for yourself.
Robbie Hegwood
Platinum Member
Oh forgot this one.
Yes a excavator is more efficent. Jon is right, turning a level turret is much easier than moving a 10k machine on 6' of tracks while raising the head and running it. You mulch on the down swing with an excavator so all your driving hyd is the head. Your only opening the sylinoid(spell) to let off pressure to boom down.
Also here is a picture of our big boy. A DAF-250Ex
Yes a excavator is more efficent. Jon is right, turning a level turret is much easier than moving a 10k machine on 6' of tracks while raising the head and running it. You mulch on the down swing with an excavator so all your driving hyd is the head. Your only opening the sylinoid(spell) to let off pressure to boom down.
Also here is a picture of our big boy. A DAF-250Ex
Attachments
new to posting on here-the kubota is a fine machine but not heavy enough in the backside to work with 1400 lbs on the the end of an extended boom over the side of the tracks as they advertise. I bought one to work ditches -no ground underneath to catch a tip over.
QwikDraw
Platinum Member
Some input.
After a year with the ASV everyday I become more convinced that a tracked machine is fine for the smaller "back yard" jobs but are much to expensive to run (around here atleast with the rocks) for larger jobs. If I continue to land bigger jobs I will go with a tired machine or an excavator. I like the feel of an excavator and it is comfortable to run. I also think the New Holland TV145 is a great machine for multiple uses including mulch heads and deck mower up to 20 feet wide. CBturf I think that Barko will be awesome but I can't see the Supertrak 400 built on a dozer being very good.
I'm not sure wich way my company is headed but will probably try and get a bigger more productive machine in the future...and with cutting teeth not carbides.
After a year with the ASV everyday I become more convinced that a tracked machine is fine for the smaller "back yard" jobs but are much to expensive to run (around here atleast with the rocks) for larger jobs. If I continue to land bigger jobs I will go with a tired machine or an excavator. I like the feel of an excavator and it is comfortable to run. I also think the New Holland TV145 is a great machine for multiple uses including mulch heads and deck mower up to 20 feet wide. CBturf I think that Barko will be awesome but I can't see the Supertrak 400 built on a dozer being very good.
I'm not sure wich way my company is headed but will probably try and get a bigger more productive machine in the future...and with cutting teeth not carbides.
cbturf
Gold Member
QD I somewhat agree with you already but I need to try out every machine that is out there so I am sure that I have what is best. I was in some STEEP stuff on this first job and the tires would have never stayed on the ground. Greasy side up is not good. From now on the terrain is supposed to stay much flatter...we'll se. I wanted to try Supertrak because it is a Cat base machine, Cat is tough and parts are available everywhere in the country. One major issue that I see with the Supertrak is the positioning of the radiator. It sits just a couple of feet behind the head, I am almost certian that my dust and high altitude air will cause sooling issues. But I don't know if I don't try it out.
I sure do love the looks of the Barko, they had some overheating issues on the early machine but everyone says that they have fixed that and it is now the best tractor on the market.
I sure do love the looks of the Barko, they had some overheating issues on the early machine but everyone says that they have fixed that and it is now the best tractor on the market.
QD, I wonder if a smaller ASV would be better. One of the main reasons I bought the SR-80 was the ISR-4 suspension. It has the best attributes of track and wheels. However, I do not have a lot of rock, which I understand is a problem with rubber undercarriages.
Are you thinking about getting a wheeled excavator?
jmf
Are you thinking about getting a wheeled excavator?
jmf
