FEL bucket not staying in place

Soundguy · May 30, 2006

Sounds like a leaky spool to me. You may be lucky if it is an oring job. if it is a metal to metal deal.. I think you may need a replacement.

Soundguy

Soundguy · May 30, 2006

Sounds like a leaky spool to me. You may be lucky if it is an oring job. if it is a metal to metal deal.. I think you may need a replacement.

Soundguy

MadReferee · May 30, 2006

( The other odd thing is that if I slowly raise the loader, it falls a inch or so first, then goes up. )

This is a symptom of the load check in the spool failing. The load check valve should activate holding the loader position against gravity until pressure builds up. This will be momentary but it is designed keep the loader from jerky operations when the spool is first activated.

It sounds like you might have several problems with the loader valve, or maybe a single problem that has caused other things to happen. A severed o-ring that has caught in the load check, for example.

MadReferee · May 30, 2006

( The other odd thing is that if I slowly raise the loader, it falls a inch or so first, then goes up. )

This is a symptom of the load check in the spool failing. The load check valve should activate holding the loader position against gravity until pressure builds up. This will be momentary but it is designed keep the loader from jerky operations when the spool is first activated.

It sounds like you might have several problems with the loader valve, or maybe a single problem that has caused other things to happen. A severed o-ring that has caught in the load check, for example.

chanceu · May 30, 2006

Called a dealer this morning and service said it could be an internal leak in one of the cylinders. He said that would cause the problem and no leaks would be seen. I can't think of anything I did between Saturday and Monday that would have caused any damage, but he said he's seen this happen for no reason.

He said to test it I could "dead head" the system by raising the loader all the way and continuing to hold the joystick down. He said that if it is an internal leak, one (or both) of the cylinders will get hot. I tried it and one of the cylinders seemed to get warmer than the other. A few minutes later my wife was leaving for work so I got her to check each cylinder and she said she couldn't tell any difference. I checked them again and I couldn't tell any difference.

Anyone ever hear of this?

chanceu · May 30, 2006

Called a dealer this morning and service said it could be an internal leak in one of the cylinders. He said that would cause the problem and no leaks would be seen. I can't think of anything I did between Saturday and Monday that would have caused any damage, but he said he's seen this happen for no reason.

He said to test it I could "dead head" the system by raising the loader all the way and continuing to hold the joystick down. He said that if it is an internal leak, one (or both) of the cylinders will get hot. I tried it and one of the cylinders seemed to get warmer than the other. A few minutes later my wife was leaving for work so I got her to check each cylinder and she said she couldn't tell any difference. I checked them again and I couldn't tell any difference.

Anyone ever hear of this?

MadReferee · May 30, 2006

( He said to test it I could "dead head" the system by raising the loader all the way and continuing to hold the joystick down. He said that if it is an internal leak, one (or both) of the cylinders will get hot. I tried it and one of the cylinders seemed to get warmer than the other. A few minutes later my wife was leaving for work so I got her to check each cylinder and she said she couldn't tell any difference. I checked them again and I couldn't tell any difference.

Anyone ever hear of this? )

Nope. What he is calling dead heading is simply having the loader valve's relief valve activate which sends fluid directly back to the sump. Unless you have a VERY VERY bad, and I mean really bad, leak his suggestion will give you no indication of a problem like you have.

You probably have some kind or leak situation, but the problem I commented on earlier smacks dead on of a load check problem.

MadReferee · May 30, 2006

( He said to test it I could "dead head" the system by raising the loader all the way and continuing to hold the joystick down. He said that if it is an internal leak, one (or both) of the cylinders will get hot. I tried it and one of the cylinders seemed to get warmer than the other. A few minutes later my wife was leaving for work so I got her to check each cylinder and she said she couldn't tell any difference. I checked them again and I couldn't tell any difference.

Anyone ever hear of this? )

Nope. What he is calling dead heading is simply having the loader valve's relief valve activate which sends fluid directly back to the sump. Unless you have a VERY VERY bad, and I mean really bad, leak his suggestion will give you no indication of a problem like you have.

You probably have some kind or leak situation, but the problem I commented on earlier smacks dead on of a load check problem.

JerryG · May 30, 2006

Mad is right on all counts. If the leak was that bad, the flow though the cylinder would be tremendous. That would be almost completely out of the question. It has to be the load check.

JerryG · May 30, 2006

Mad is right on all counts. If the leak was that bad, the flow though the cylinder would be tremendous. That would be almost completely out of the question. It has to be the load check.