FILLED REAR TIRES ON 3616

[DavesTractor]

chubby, that is a great that you used the tractor before and after tire fill, and you are an experienced operator. I don't think most people understand how helpful it is to have proper ballast. $800? Wow, that is a bunch. I think Rim Guard is made in Idaho, although they may make it elsewhere, but by nature it needs to be near where sugar beets are grown. Hauling a full tanker truck of Rim Guard to DE and coming back empty is probably very expensive. I suspect your dealer pays a bunch for the product. All of us within a days drive of Idaho must pay quite a bit less I'd think.

 

[Jim Dodgins]

I have had windshield wiper fluid in my Kubota for about 15 years now with no ill effects (rusting). I don't know if it will poison animals like antifreeze. :2cents:

 

[chubby]

Good to hear no ill effects after 15 yrs. My 4 other tractors all had calcium. I assume they had tubes cause I never saw any rust. Never had a rear flat tire. Now I sure had my share of front tires with flats. Turf tires and brush cutting will cause many punctures. I kept SLIME in the fronts of all tractors. And a bottle in the truck. With the ind. tires very few flats. But the turfs, by the time I was done cutting you could green from a the punctures. So I do think the windshield is probably not good for animals but with out flats, I think I will take my chances on 0 leaks. I should call the Kioti dealer and see just what he put in the DK50. Only thing I requested was no calcium.

 

[DavesTractor]

I doubt you have much worry with animals using washer fluid. The real worry is folks that use anti-freeze, as it is very toxic and more importantly it is attractive to animals as it smells sort of sweet. But then again, we have it in our radiators so it isn't anything to lose sleep over. We have put anti-freeze in quite a few tires for folks and we just caution them about it. Lots of tractors in our area just run straight water, and it takes years to rust out a rim. We are just pretty excited about Rim Guard as it basically has all positive attributes, except maybe cost. Heavier, non-toxic, does not rust and stays liquid to 45 below.

 

[Dave787]

Dave,

After reading all the posts (including yours) regarding tire fill, I sure wish you guys (i.e., Rob) had suggested filling our tires when we purchased our 3016. We love the tractor and you folks were wonderful throughout the sales process (Rob couldn't have been nicer). However, during actual use on our property, I do encounter quite a bit of rear wheel spin during loader operation and it seems a bit light in the rear (even with the box scraper) especially on our hilly terrain. In retrospect, I would have gladly paid to have the tires filled with Rim Guard prior to delivery had I known it was an option. Now I am faced with paying to transport the tractor back and forth to your shop in addition to the cost of the tire fill. Just a friendly suggestion for your sales staff to recommend filling the tires prior to delivery.

Again, we love our Mahindra and only wish it had a little bit more traction. Otherwise, we couldn't be happier with it or with the service we received from you folks during our purchase.

Thanks again,
Dave & Alice

 

[Tkblacktail]

Dave,

After reading all the posts (including yours) regarding tire fill, I sure wish you guys (i.e., Rob) had suggested filling our tires when we purchased our 3016. We love the tractor and you folks were wonderful throughout the sales process (Rob couldn't have been nicer). However, during actual use on our property, I do encounter quite a bit of rear wheel spin during loader operation and it seems a bit light in the rear (even with the box scraper) especially on our hilly terrain. In retrospect, I would have gladly paid to have the tires filled with Rim Guard prior to delivery had I known it was an option. Now I am faced with paying to transport the tractor back and forth to your shop in addition to the cost of the tire fill. Just a friendly suggestion for your sales staff to recommend filling the tires prior to delivery.

Again, we love our Mahindra and only wish it had a little bit more traction. Otherwise, we couldn't be happier with it or with the service we received from you folks during our purchase.

Thanks again,
Dave & Alice

Heck, you may get a tire company to come out to fill em?

 

[DavesTractor]

Dave,

After reading all the posts (including yours) regarding tire fill, I sure wish you guys (i.e., Rob) had suggested filling our tires when we purchased our 3016. We love the tractor and you folks were wonderful throughout the sales process (Rob couldn't have been nicer). However, during actual use on our property, I do encounter quite a bit of rear wheel spin during loader operation and it seems a bit light in the rear (even with the box scraper) especially on our hilly terrain. In retrospect, I would have gladly paid to have the tires filled with Rim Guard prior to delivery had I known it was an option. Now I am faced with paying to transport the tractor back and forth to your shop in addition to the cost of the tire fill. Just a friendly suggestion for your sales staff to recommend filling the tires prior to delivery.

Again, we love our Mahindra and only wish it had a little bit more traction. Otherwise, we couldn't be happier with it or with the service we received from you folks during our purchase.

Thanks again,
Dave & Alice

I forget sometimes that some of our own customers are right here on TBN. Dave, I am glad you are enjoying the tractor, and a very sincere "thank you" for the kind words regarding Rob and our service. Regarding the tire fill, we just got our tank of Rim Guard and pump and got all set up to retail at the end of May. I did not do a search, but I am suspecting you bought before that. Otherwise, I'm a little embarrassed! Prior to that, we did not have great options. Calcium Chloride will rust, straight water is light and will freeze and is also prone to rust, anti-freeze is toxic....and we had not tried windshield washer fluid. So we struggled with what to recommend until we got Rim Guard. Then we did some testing with a 3016 with and without ballast with a heavy load and became convinced about the benefits of this extra weight. Not that everyone needs it, the Max size tractor often gets used for mowing where you may not want "heavy", and some folks buy a tractor without a loader....but by and large, the typical 25-50 HP compact really benefits. A box scraper generally keeps the rear of the tractor on the ground, but adding another 600lbs is quite noticeable.

When it is time for a service, maybe we can kill two birds with one stone. Or if you can borrow a trailer from a buddy (I'll loan you ours, but we are 50 miles apart) and run the tractor up here, we will fill the tires quickly while you go to lunch. Takes about an hour.

Thanks again.

 

[Dave787]

Dave,

Thank you for the timely response and thorough explanation. Now I understand why Rob may have been reluctant to recommend filling the tires on our new 3016 when we purchased it back in March, 2011. I do appreciate the offer for the use of your trailer however, I don't have a truck large enough to tow it. I also do my own maintenance but will certainly avail myself of your Rim Guard tire fill services should I make it up your way with our tractor in the future.

Thanks again,
Dave

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Dave 787, once you fill your tires and then operate your tractor, you will think that you just got a different machine. :shocked: Night and day difference for capabilities, stability, ride. All on the plus side IMO. I filled all four tires on my 3215 HST. I tried the tractor without anything at first, just couldn't stand it and after the first week I filled them all. :thumbsup:

By the way, Dave's Tractor is my dealer also, but you are a bit closer to him than I am. I'm right at 650 miles driveway-driveway.

 

[Tkblacktail]

I came down a steep-hill today on my place with a full bucket of rock and soil; I was in 2WD (w/o the box scraper) and while the rear tires never left the ground, they were skidding on the dry topsoil with the engine/HST drag. So I engaged the front axle and she crawled down just fine.

I'm taking raw material from a hill side and the tractor works just fine.

My neighbor/mentor (RIP) was on his land with a 2WD JD for 37+ years; I was smart-enough to listen to him closely (from 2001-2009), one of the first things he told me about was the benefits rim-guard. So, naturally, one of the first topics I discussed with my dealer was ballast.

I pays to listen to a wise ole-timer; now I have a bounty of valuable lessons to draw from.