Fine engineering my foot

   / Fine engineering my foot #1  

adorondi

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Paris, Arkansas
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Kubota B2410
You say fine engineering of the Kubota.
When on the B2410 that I own and operate. I think the B2410 is poorly engineered when:
1.) The range lever H,N,L can be bumped into N and the machine freewheels (there should be a saftey check here so this does not happen).
2.) The foot brake and the HST Forward Reverse on the same floor board (operate both with right foot) reduces the ability to operate. No automobile or truck has this configuration. Difficult to feather motion with HST F/R and foot brake.
3.) To fuel the Tractor with a five gallon container you need to be acrobatic to get the fuel can nozzel into the center mounted fuel tank opening. You may chuckle here but seniors should be able to use this machine also.
 
   / Fine engineering my foot #2  
I'll second the difficulty of fueling especially if you have a fel. What I ended up doing was buying one of those hand pump fuelers. I believe it was under $20.00. Now, I just set the fuel jug on the hood and use the plunger to transfer the fuel. If you didn't want to lift the jug onto the hood, you'd just need to lengthen the hose a bit and leave it on the ground.

Jeff
 
   / Fine engineering my foot #3  
I think the comment of fine engineering was made about the BX....
 
   / Fine engineering my foot #4  
I guess that I don't fully understand the problem with your #2 complaint.

<font color=blue>2.) The foot brake and the HST Forward Reverse on the same floor board (operate both with left foot) reduces the ability to operate. No automobile or truck has this configuration. Difficult to feather motion with HST F/R and foot brake.</font color=blue>

I have operated my B2150 with the same configuration for several years with no complaints. For me, I never use the brake pedal unless I'm setting the parking brake. I let the hydrostat transmission do the braking for me, which, when in 4wd, is a far superior braking system than the mechanical brakes on the rear wheels only.

I'll admit that I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the term "feather motion", but I assume that you mean that you are moving the tractor in slow and/or small incremets. If so, why do you need to use the brakes for that? The problem that I have with moving in small increments is that the HST pedal sometimes wont return to neutral when released, thus I have to lightly tap the HST pedal in the opposite direction when I am ready for it to stop. You can also press the clutch pedal to stop movement.

On my B2150 I have not experienced the problem with your #1 complaint but have experienced the same problem with the fuel filling operations. While the location of the tank fill port can be inconvenient, I will say that the central location minimizes fuel spills/leaks (out of the tank) when on an incline with a full tank.

Kelvin
 
   / Fine engineering my foot #5  
I have no trouble fueling my L3010 because of the cross bar for the FEL. I rest the 5 gallon fuel container on the bar, remove the hose plug but not the vent cap, tilt the container onto its side and tuck the hose into the filler neck, then remove the vent cap. Piece of cake.

Can't imagine how to do it without an FEL, though.

Pete
 
   / Fine engineering my foot #6  
I will give that method a shot. Until now, all I had managed to do was create a big mess until I got the pump. Unfortunately, the pump can be a bit slow.

Jeff
 
   / Fine engineering my foot #7  
Point (2) is valid in my book.

I have at times wanted to use the rear brakes independently for the steering effect and find it impossible to do. [unless I engage the cruise control, but that doesn't work in reverse does it??]

An example of this would be when back dragging with the loader and the front wheels are off the ground a bit, so there is no steering and I need to turn slightly to keep from hitting a bank beside my pond.

Let me add another poor desing feature. The plastic shroud that covers the front drive shaft on my B2910. Mine has self destructed and should be a warantee repair. The dealer has agreed to repair it under warrenty.

BUT, it is so exposed to damage, even with the loader sub frame covering it a bit, I had to make a skid plate to ease my mind and elimante questions should it fail again after the dealer replaces it. One little stick poking up could do that thing in!

Then there are the two hydraulic filters sticking out the sides unprotected...and the fuel filter hanging out there behind the right front wheel...

Then there is the B2910 cruise control lever that is rught next to your right leg, and easily activated slightly, which prevents the reverse pedal from operating smoothly, kind of hangs it up. AND I AM NOT A LARGE GUY, JUST NORMAL SIZED...

Better stop now...

Bill in Pgh, PA
 
   / Fine engineering my foot #8  
Been a while since I bored y'all with some of my old pictures, but since you brought it up, here's <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/47-128906-PouringDiesel.jpg>my solution</A> to fillin' her up.

<font color=blue>operate both with left foot</font color=blue>

Really!!?? That would drive me nuts.
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I'm hoping that's a typo, 'cuz I can't imagine anything resembling an accelerator being on the the left side. I'd get so confused when I hopped back in my truck that I wouldn't be safe on the road.
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(Hmmm... /w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif I notice that since I posted this message, the original wording was quietly edited to say "right foot".
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   / Fine engineering my foot #9  
You might try a wide-mouthed funnel and 2 1/2 gallon fuel container.
 
   / Fine engineering my foot
  • Thread Starter
#10  
Here is the scenario I was refering to with the foot brakes that should in my opinion be operated with the left foot.

Need to lock either rear wheel to apply maximum drive to the other. So try uncoupling the foot brakes and apply either to lock a rear wheel then apply the motion pedal. You could get your siginificant other to operate the motion medal for you. If you have large feet you will need a broom handle to operate the motion pedal. Maybe you could have a right peg leg, a parrot and some saltine crackers to get the job done. How sharp is the blade on your pocket knife?
 

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