Fire Extinguisher

[tderrick]

I'm looking to fasten a fire extinguisher to the tractor. What class / type should I be looking for?


thx, as always.

 

[moship]

I haven't used one, but these look interesting.

Element - Fire Extinguishers

 

[Smokeydog]

5# 3A40B:C
Bracket from Amazon ~$22. 2” square Ubolts required no drilling or cutting to attach to ROPS.

Glad you are thinking of safety. With all the potential hazards from fuel, heat, dust, debris, mice, burn piles, welding, remote locations better to be prepared. Military or commercially they would be required. Just make sense.

 

[TractorGuy]

ABC with metal bracket. $25

https://www.autozone.com/safety-and...ection-abc-rated-fire-extinguisher/500074_0_0

 

[i7win7]

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-408-36...245&sprefix=fire+extinguisher+,aps,233&sr=8-5

Found amazon webpage for mounting bracket

 

[Fallon]

5lbs minimum & that doesnt go far against much of a fire. I have a 10lbs in the bed of my truck. Only a 5 on the tractor & barely have room for that. Really need to put a 2nd on or figure out somewhere to mount a 10.

A:B:C are the common ones that take all reasonable fire types. They use powder that is rather corrosive after use though. So if you do use one, you have to clean things really well & even then are likely to have rust issues on steel & corrosion on wiring. In most cases it's better than having a charred husk of a vehicle.

CO2 isn't nasty for cleanup, but isnt as effective as the powder. Especially out in the open where the gas will blow away in the slightest breeze.

Water is good in some situations. Not as effective as the powder, bad for electrical, bad for oil, has freezing issues, etc.

For tractor use, only consider an extinguisher with a gauge & an all metal valve. Plastic is cheap & breaks, especially in the sun. They cost more but can be recharged & rebuilt. Plastic is disposable.

 

[Fallon]

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-408-36...245&sprefix=fire+extinguisher+,aps,233&sr=8-5

Found amazon webpage for mounting bracket

I have that one in my truck bed. Only working ok for my 10lb mounted horizontally. Would be great if mounted vertically.

 

[Wagtail]

One recommendation when mounting the bracket... cut up an old or spare foam neoprene stubby-holder (koozie?) and use it as a vibration-dampening layer between the bracket and ROPS or other mounting surface.

 

[repete]

Remember when you go to use it to give it a couple good whacks on a tire and shake it to break up the powder that can pack very tightly over time.

 

[oosik]

I take a different approach. I have insurance if my pickup or tractor burns. I've witnessed two vehicle fires. A sedan and a semi truck. The driver(s) exited the vehicle to get away from the fire - WAY too dangerous to go back for any extinguisher. It's human nature to exit ASAP. It's NOT human nature to look for an extinguisher - then exit.

When I'm out felling/chipping pines - I always have a large extinguisher with me. It's to suppress any fire that may start from anywhere. My big concern - something like my chainsaw might catch on fire. This could be the point of origin for a nasty wildfire. Put this fire down quickly - worry about the chainsaw after all the fire is out.

This extinguisher is located away from the operation. I do not have to run back into whatever is burning to get it.

Think about it - are you prepared to run back into the fire to retrieve an extinguisher?

 

[TnAndy]

Mine mounted on the roll bar below the fold point.

Mounting bracket is a quick release "Pull" handle

https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Extinguisher-Release-Wrangler-Aluminum/dp/B07VL2LPJT/ref=sr_1_21_sspa?crid=YF4DGH5VJ51N&dchild=1&keywords=fire+extinguisher+mount&qid=1588587795&sprefix=fire+ex%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-21-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExTko0UEpaVVk1MUdaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzM2Mjk3Mzc1UEhBTERPTkhTSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODMwNjY5MlVXVzVFRVVRRkZYMCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Extinguisher itself is a 2lb 5:B C DOT/Coast Guard approved model.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-466179MTL-5-B-Disposable-Extinguisher/dp/B07CR31H5S/ref=sr_1_4?crid=16BKMIJ83D4UI&dchild=1&keywords=boat+fire+extinguisher+coast+guard+approved&qid=1588588215&s=hi&sprefix=boa%2Ctools%2C215&sr=1-4

 

[Notforhire]

After posting a photo of my L47, a member (fried1765) asked where was my FE? I had forgotten all about it.
Here is my ABC FOPS mounted.

 

[chim]

I'm looking to fasten a fire extinguisher to the tractor. What class / type should I be looking for?
thx, as always.

I'm guilty of not having one, but since it's the internet I'll give you advice anyway.

The size of the fire extinguisher should be inversely proportional to your insurance coverage

 

[fried1765]

I'm guilty of not having one, but since it's the internet I'll give you advice anyway.

The size of the fire extinguisher should be inversely proportional to your insurance coverage

I have replacement value insurance coverage ($60K + for new L47 ?), but I still do have a mounted 5lb. (small) dry chemical extinguisher.

 

[fried1765]

Mine mounted on the roll bar below the fold point.

Mounting bracket is a quick release "Pull" handle

https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Extinguisher-Release-Wrangler-Aluminum/dp/B07VL2LPJT/ref=sr_1_21_sspa?crid=YF4DGH5VJ51N&dchild=1&keywords=fire+extinguisher+mount&qid=1588587795&sprefix=fire+ex%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-21-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExTko0UEpaVVk1MUdaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzM2Mjk3Mzc1UEhBTERPTkhTSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODMwNjY5MlVXVzVFRVVRRkZYMCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Extinguisher itself is a 2lb 5:B C DOT/Coast Guard approved model.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-466179MTL-5-B-Disposable-Extinguisher/dp/B07CR31H5S/ref=sr_1_4?crid=16BKMIJ83D4UI&dchild=1&keywords=boat+fire+extinguisher+coast+guard+approved&qid=1588588215&s=hi&sprefix=boa%2Ctools%2C215&sr=1-4

For your tractor: 2 lb. is obviously better than nothing, but 5 lb. would be much better.
I really do like the quick pull to release button.

 

[TnAndy]

For your tractor: 2 lb. is obviously better than nothing, but 5 lb. would be much better.
I really do like the quick pull to release button.

And a 10lb would be even better no doubt.

My thinking is like oosik....I want enough for a small engine/wiring fire, but if something really big is happening, I can buy another tractor no problem.....>me< is a lot harder to fix/replace.

 

[fried1765]

And a 10lb would be even better no doubt.

My thinking is like oosik....I want enough for a small engine/wiring fire, but if something really big is happening, I can buy another tractor no problem.....>me< is a lot harder to fix/replace.

10 lb. is often not a practical size to mount.
Biggest that can reasonably be mounted is the best.

I have had two fires.
One I extinguished (rags in my garage) with a 5 lb. Co2.

The second one: I was not at home. My then 19 yr. old son was starting my Gravely in the garage (different house/garage).
The Gravely had a magneto, which ignited some gas from an apparent overfill.
He shot 2- 5lb dry chemical bottles at it.

The Gravely was lost, the attached 4 car garage and contents were lost, and part of the house was badly damaged.
USAA insurance paid a total of $240,000, for contents lost, and damage repair, in 1987.
That occurred 33 years ago. Probably at least $500,000 in today's dollars

I now have a total of 5- 10 pounders, and one 20 pounder in three separate buildings.
I had replacement value coverage in 1987, and I have it now!

 

[Fallon]

I take a different approach. I have insurance if my pickup or tractor burns. I've witnessed two vehicle fires. A sedan and a semi truck. The driver(s) exited the vehicle to get away from the fire - WAY too dangerous to go back for any extinguisher. It's human nature to exit ASAP. It's NOT human nature to look for an extinguisher - then exit.

When I'm out felling/chipping pines - I always have a large extinguisher with me. It's to suppress any fire that may start from anywhere. My big concern - something like my chainsaw might catch on fire. This could be the point of origin for a nasty wildfire. Put this fire down quickly - worry about the chainsaw after all the fire is out.

This extinguisher is located away from the operation. I do not have to run back into whatever is burning to get it.

Think about it - are you prepared to run back into the fire to retrieve an extinguisher?

I definitely agree. If I'm popping a powder extinguisher on a vehicle, it's likely totaled anyway due to the corrosive after effects. I've got insurance. If possible I want to avoid starting a grass fire or what not that would get out of control very quickly here in dry Colorado.

I'd like to get a smaller CO2 bottle to deal with small issues before they grow without causing later corrosion issues. But no way am I going to risk my life for my tractor or truck. Vehicle insurance is easier to deal with than health or life insurance.

 

[Smokeydog]

Rarely does insurance make you whole again. Many things I have are irreplaceable.
You have seconds, not minutes to react to a small fire with an extinguisher. Having one near by and knowing how to use it are important.
As important and arguably more important it cultivates a culture of trying to work safely. Assessing the potential hazards. That critical level of thinking, planning and execution should go with any activity we do at home or farm.

 

[TnAndy]

Rarely does insurance make you whole again

True enough. Which is why I carry huge deductibles in on house/farm/cars, a couple million umbrella for 'lawyer liability', and put the savings in the bank so I'm self insured for a lot of small things. I consider a 10 year old tractor or car a reasonably small thing, and would simply replace them out of savings.

That said, my aim is too mitigate as many small things as I can. Have 6 fire extinguishers in the house, one in both vehicles, a 5lb one on the mini-ex (with all that hydraulic everything, if one gets started 5lbs might not do it ), 2 in the shop, one in the shed where I park my truck and mini-ex, one at the sawmill shed and one at the fuel shed......and the one on the tractor. I think I counted 15 there spread out all over the place.

One near the kitchen is one of those haylon gas type.....no mess to clean up from the extinguisher, assuming you get a fire out.

One on the steps going down to the basement, just off the living room. Also a set of Chimfex wood stove extinguishers in case of a flue fire.

Two in the basement (1/2 basement, small area) plus Chimfex because we have a wood stove there too:

One in the garage just outside the kitchen door:

One in the 'auxiliary kitchen'/meat prep room off the back of the garage + Chimfex for the wood cook stove:

( yes, the paper towels are not normally stored on top the stove during use.....I know SOMEBODY will point it out..... )

One in the car in the garage:

All of these photos, and many more, are stored in a file called "Insurance Photos" stored on the cloud should they ever be needed.