First electric tractor ride

[Apeman426]

I believe the true answer is in the combination of technologies. Hydrogen would keep the internal combustion engine going, a known and proven technology, using the rejected heat for the cab or other processes. Its also a fuel that is clean and can be transferred rather quickly. It can also be generated from electricity relatively easily, and possiblly scaled for an in home installation. With cars and in anything that decelerates, it makes sense to have a hybrid to recover the energy in deceleration that would otherwise just be scrubbed off as heat from friction.

I'm convinced the reason we have electric vehicles is because that's what our government officials thought was going to be the winning technology and that they have steered the legislation to make their personal investments in that technology huge money for themselves. If it can't compete on its own without subsidies, it will never work.

 

[5030]

Big Bruther is always right, right? There will NEVER be an electric vehicle here, nor an electric tractor either. I have no issue with battery powered hand tools, I have quite a few and not using corded ones in the field is nice but a toaster car or toaster tractor ain't gonna happen here, ever.

 

[MossRoad]

Worked pretty well in Flint.

Not the same thing, but ouch.

Flint fiasco was caused by them wanting to save money by not buying water from another municipality and sucking from their own source, only to find the other municipality treated for lead pipes that encapsulated the lead, rendering it harmless, VS Flint not realizing this, and running the corrosive water from the river through the lead pipes without lead encapsulation treatment because no one in Flint was knowledgeable enough to realize this necessity. The untreated water ate away the encapsulation of the lead and bob's your uncle.

 

[MossRoad]

The present market for a compact-size Etractor is small. Maybe a riding stable where you want the employee mucking stalls to be inconspicuous while the kids are taking lessons for example.

And some folks, like the type who are buying small vineyards around here that will never be profitable, they just need to radiate 'ambiance' when they come up for the weekend. My neighbor bought a $30k Kubota mostly for towing an IBC Tote watering trailer, after she quizzed me extensively on the 40 year old $3,400 Yanmar I use for that task.

There won't be a market for these among rational farmers before they are cost-competitive.

Those that put their trust in a higher power to provide rain, put down pestilence, hope the market is high at harvest time, etc?

 

[Molalla1]

You really are fortunate.

Since the beginning, water has been the scarce resource that sets absolute limits on everything in the West.

In the PNW?

 

[California]

In the PNW?

The real West. Didn't you watch cowboy movies? /s

Ok, water was/is the scarce resource in the Great Basin and the entire Southwest. Better?

(Grandma's people were Oregon Trail pioneers so I guess I can say I have roots in your region along with the California homesteaders. All were in the west before the transcontinental railroad).

 

[cqaigy2]

The real West. Didn't you watch cowboy movies? /s

Ok, water was/is the scarce resource in the Great Basin and the entire Southwest. Better?

(Grandma's people were Oregon Trail pioneers so I guess I can say I have roots in your region along with the California homesteaders. All were in the west before the transcontinental railroad).

Ok.

 

[cqaigy2]

Flint was ran by a state apointed operator who was charged with something related to that mess he made. Don't ask me for details. I'm glad we have water, wells and sewage regulation.

And they're still drinking bottled water.

 

[MossRoad]

And they're still drinking bottled water.

Kinda staggering numbers for a city of 96,000.

April 2022.

Flint has excavated 26,886 pipes to determine whether they are lead; 10,088 lead pipes have been replaced. Out of the estimated 1,900 homes that still need pipe replacement work under the agreement, about 1,400 have not yet received the required outreach from the city; 400 residents have consented to have their homes’ water service lines excavated but the city has not yet performed the work; and 100 homes have known lead service lines that need to be replaced, based on Flint city records. Work to restore lawns at all homes that had their service lines excavated under the program will continue after the September 2022 deadline. Under the previous agreement, it was expected the city would complete all work by November 2020.

 

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I believe the true answer is in the combination of technologies. Hydrogen would keep the internal combustion engine going, a known and proven technology, using the rejected heat for the cab or other processes. Its also a fuel that is clean and can be transferred rather quickly. It can also be generated from electricity relatively easily, and possiblly scaled for an in home installation. With cars and in anything that decelerates, it makes sense to have a hybrid to recover the energy in deceleration that would otherwise just be scrubbed off as heat from friction.

I'm convinced the reason we have electric vehicles is because that's what our government officials thought was going to be the winning technology and that they have steered the legislation to make their personal investments in that technology huge money for themselves. If it can't compete on its own without subsidies, it will never work.

The advent of the "electric car" is pure marketing. It is simply a stop gap measure I hypothesize. Look how quickly they are attempting to ram it down our throats without the supporting mechanisms in place.
It may simply be a maneuver to restructure the infrastructure or I should say force this into reality as they are doing with the car itself.

Your assumption of certain people in government getting richer with the scheme I happen to agree with. The government is quite good and has a long history of controlling the populace with phony premise to cover their real intent ala putting fluoride in water supplies for healthier teeth when in fact it serves to as a method to rid production waste product.
I may or may not live to see it but in my mind, the ev will end up like the steam boat and will only last until a better combustion method evolves.