First home. Time for my first tractor.

   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #21  
   / First home. Time for my first tractor.
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Still has that aluminum rear end.
So is this a known failure point or are you simply referring to the use of aluminum being theoretically less desirable to support the weight of a BH due to being inharently weaker?

If this is a common failure point I'll cross it off the list now.
 
   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #24  
So is this a known failure point or are you simply referring to the use of aluminum being theoretically less desirable to support the weight of a BH due to being inharently weaker?

If this is a common failure point I'll cross it off the list now.

I think the Deere 3032e is a fine CUT. All manufacturers offer economy versions of their tractors because that's what consumers want. The 3032e does most of what land owners want but is less feature laden than the premium models (2 speed hydrostatic vs 3 speed hydrostatic for example). Backhoes require rugged frames. An aluminum housing is less robust than cast iron, and there are numerous reports of failures of the 3 point mounting points (probably mostly due to operator error). I actually think the 3032e is a good value, I just wouldn't put a backhoe on it.
 
   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #25  
One of my previous tractors was a Kubots L35. Great size and strong backhoe for it's size. I've always liked the Deere 110 TLB but they don't seem to have the reliability of a Kubota. My advice is to buy a tractor that best meets the 90% of what you will use it for. You can always rent or maybe borrow the fullsize equipment for the big projects. It will save putting extra hard hours on your machine, just my 2cents...
 
   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #26  
if ya gong with a 3pt hitch backhoe, make sure you get the "sub frame" that fits your tractor for the backhoe.

subframe connects backhoe, to rear end, transmission, and up to front were FEL frame work is. and makes tractor a more solid unit. most backhoes can lift rear end of tractor and jar tractor pretty good.

normally when you get a backhoe with tractor, the 3pt hitch lower lift arms, top link, turn buckles, check chains, swap bar/chains are sold sepretly . make sure you get those items.

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what is not mentioned is a TNT (top and tilt) for 3pt hitch, you can replace the top link turn buckle with a hydraulic cylinder, and 1 or both side links with a hydraulic cylinder. so you can adjust the 3pt on the go. you need 1 or 2 sets of rear remotes for TNT,

other stuff...

brush guard for up in front, so your not ramming a stick or like up into an expensive radiator.

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tires
AG / R1 tires = pizza tires, they sink in and keep you going
turf tires = regular lawn mower type tread of tires.
industrial / R4 tires = width of a turf tire but tread like a R1 tire.

myself i would prefer R1 tires. they tear up the yard when wet or when you make sharp turns. BUT they keep me going no matter what.

R4 tires float on top of the mud = stuck, and requires use of "split breaks", FEL (front end loader), and backhoe to get you unstuck.

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split brakes = lock together for single rear braking, or unlock the 2 pedals for a left rear tire brake and a right rear tire brake.
personally can not live without split brakes. with all the dirt work and stuff doing you most likely will need this or rather want this.

in the SCUT (sub compact utility tractor) range, split brakes may not be offered, and if they do it is on the same side as the gas/go/hst peddle. (personally do not like). when you get into the CUT (compact utility tractor) normally get get split brakes on opposite foot than the go/hst/gas peddle.

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i am going to say you will want to be in the CUT range, so you have more ground clearance under neath, a larger frame, and more weight. vs a SCUT which resembles a riding lawn mower on steroids.

cut range = 25 to 30HP range. and more likely in the 30HP range.
 
   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #27  
So is this a known failure point or are you simply referring to the use of aluminum being theoretically less desirable to support the weight of a BH due to being inharently weaker?

If this is a common failure point I'll cross it off the list now.

A ways back when we were shopping a salesman told us that if you put a backhoe on them they probably wont honor the warranty. At that time I was unaware it had an aluminum rear housing and asked why He said they don't even offer a hoe for that model and told us straight out it was aluminum and not able to handle the stress. The next dealer seemed to be happy to figure out how to get a hoe on one but it was a mmix match of parts and he didn't seem positive about warranty issues.

I simply wouldn't buy one if I was looking to add a hoe. Plenty of much better machines out there that will work without worry.
 
   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #28  
Pinetree, thanks for the first hand examples of what you do and don't want to attempt with your tractor. The 3033r is nice but bigger than I need if the big work is knocked out ahead. I really want the new redesigned, built in Georgia 2032r or 2038r but the price is painful. I'm waiting to see if JD follows through and works over the 2025r at the end of the summer. Might be perfect.

On a separate note, so far I best like the John Deere and Mahindra products. I don't fit well on the Kabota stuff. The New Holland tractors don't seem as nice for the price and my Kioti dealer has next to no inventory which means I haven't actually looked at a Kioti.

Any of the models you mentioned are nice machines and very capable. Good luck with your selection.
 
   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #29  
Mahindra isn't in quite the same league as Deere and Kubota as far as quality and sophistication.

I do not currently own a tractor but have shopped the market quite a bit lately. The above statement is strictly opinion. Mahindra makes a very nice CUT for less money, better warranty, higher lifting specs, heavier tractor, less emissions to deal with and the list could go on. As for sophistication, they did the Tier 4 research to get by without adding the DPF, fluid, regen stuff that most manufacturers added to existing engines to meet the new standards. They also claim to be the number one selling tractor in the world(not sure how this is calculated....just have heard it in advertising).

Don't get me wrong, JD is nice with their green paint and all but dollar for dollar they are overpriced and not what they once were. Kubota was a small company not too many years ago and look at them now. They hold the top spot in the CUT and SCUT market for a reason....they make nice stuff. I don't like some things about them and one is the color but that is me and my opinion.

I think buying new at a good dealership you probably can't go wrong with any of them (except that aluminum housing Deere if you plan to run a hoe). Give Mahinda a look and check out the 1533 or 1538 models. You will be right around $30k with a backhoe and some other goodies such as your box blade. Best of luck with the new place and post up some pics of the new tool when you decide.
 
   / First home. Time for my first tractor. #30  
I do not currently own a tractor but have shopped the market quite a bit lately. The above statement is strictly opinion. Mahindra makes a very nice CUT for less money, better warranty, higher lifting specs, heavier tractor, less emissions to deal with and the list could go on. As for sophistication, they did the Tier 4 research to get by without adding the DPF, fluid, regen stuff that most manufacturers added to existing engines to meet the new standards. They also claim to be the number one selling tractor in the world(not sure how this is calculated....just have heard it in advertising).

Don't get me wrong, JD is nice with their green paint and all but dollar for dollar they are overpriced and not what they once were. Kubota was a small company not too many years ago and look at them now. They hold the top spot in the CUT and SCUT market for a reason....they make nice stuff. I don't like some things about them and one is the color but that is me and my opinion.

I think buying new at a good dealership you probably can't go wrong with any of them (except that aluminum housing Deere if you plan to run a hoe). Give Mahinda a look and check out the 1533 or 1538 models. You will be right around $30k with a backhoe and some other goodies such as your box blade. Best of luck with the new place and post up some pics of the new tool when you decide.
Agree with the mahindra machines being pretty solid. My dad has one in that size range and ive done a good bit of dirt work projects on my home with it and it preforms very well. Mind youbots only been with a FEL no back hoe so no onfo there.

I also beleive most mihrindra machines are cast iron rear ends so thats a plus but i could be wrong. I khow that was a reason my dad didn't wan a deere.
 

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