Buying Advice First time on 5 acres - tractor selection?

[jeff9366]

If I look at New Holland, does anyone know a pound for pound and HP competitor to the L2501?

Within subcompact and compact tractor categories, a significant tractor capability increase requires a bare tractor weight increase of 50%. It takes a 100% increase in bare tractor weight to elicit MY-OH-MY!


Every tractor manufacturer makes competitors to the Kubota L2501. Pull up the web sites and surf.

The key specs for L2501 are 2,700 pounds bare tractor weight, three (3) range HST transmission, high torque 100 cubic inch engine just under 26-horsepower requirements for Tier IV emission controls, which saves about $2,500 on emission controls.

 

[Diggin It]

If I took a look at the new holland lineup, does anyone know a pound for pound and HP competitor to the L2501? Do the hydraulics on the new holland allow for multiple operations (lift and curl, etc?)

Again, LS makes New Holland machines, so if you want to go NH, look at LS and you might be able to save some money. The XJ2025 came with a BH, but the new MT225HE (hydro) doesn't show one. Since the MT225E (gear) does, it may just be an oversight on the web page. That machine in in the 2400Lb and 25HP range.

MT2E Series Compact Tractors | LS Tractor

 

[MossRoad]

Well, I do not agree. The statement was about TRENCHING. While I would not say a backhoe excels at TRENCHING over an excavator, it is a close call. When TRENCHING you only need 90 degrees of swing and can spin around and move the backhoe forward rather quickly. An excavator is a little faster at moving during trenching.

That said, in overall DIGGING an excavator excels over a backhoe. For GENERAL PURPOSE a backhoe excels over an excavator.

Anyone who disagrees with that I challenge them to get their excavator a mile away and dig a hole to bury a cow or whatever. A backhoe would be done and back in the barn about the time the excavator would be loaded on a trailer to go there. God forbid anyone transports the excavator on its tracks to a spot a mile away.

Yes. The statement was about trenching. Excavators are better at trenching than backhoes. They're also better at general excavating.

The OP wants a compact tractor. That means a compact backhoe. Which is even less capable than a very small excavator at trenching and other general excavating projects.

 

[4570Man]

If digging a big hole is the idea I’d put the 18” bucket in n the shed where it belongs and use my 36”. And with a size difference of that much the excavator has zero chance of winning. The excavator might trench marginally faster but they really suck at back filling.

 

[paulfun9]

Again, LS makes New Holland machines, so if you want to go NH, look at LS and you might be able to save some money. The XJ2025 came with a BH, but the new MT225HE (hydro) doesn't show one. Since the MT225E (gear) does, it may just be an oversight on the web page. That machine in in the 2400Lb and 25HP range.

MT2E Series Compact Tractors | LS Tractor

Second this opinion
If your going to look at NH then I would also suggest looking at LS if you have a dealership even remotely close. The last I was able to look and check prices the machines were very close as the only difference was the color and loader specs. The price was way different in the favor of LS.

 

[4570Man]

If the contest was CTL and excavator vs backhoe you might be getting somewhere but you have little chance of beating a backhoe by itself. And comparing a excavator to a tractor backhoe was flawed from the start. At least use a real TLB. Backhoe vs Excavator - YouTube

 

[MossRoad]

If digging a big hole is the idea I壇 put the 18 bucket in n the shed where it belongs and use my 36? And with a size difference of that much the excavator has zero chance of winning. The excavator might trench marginally faster but they really suck at back filling.

the smaller excavator in the video beat the larger TLB in backfilling. they also did the comparisons with same size buckets.

 

[DK35vince]

the smaller excavator in the video beat the larger TLB in backfilling. they also did the comparisons with same size buckets.

Yet, why didn't they just use the front bucket on the backhoe to backfill most of the ditch vs using the backhoe to backfill.??
Would have been a whole lot faster..

 

[paulfun9]

Yet, why didn't they just use the front bucket on the backhoe to backfill most of the ditch vs using the backhoe to backfill.??
Would have been a whole lot faster..

That’s why when I was in construction every time I sent out the track hoe it was followed by a truck with a loader or at the least a bobcat. Because it’s just a one trick pony!
The biggest part that everyone is missing is we are not talking about heavy construction work here but rather light duty work in most cases with limited medium duty chores thrown in every once in awhile.
If your looking to do heavy digging and turn your yard into a construction site it’s most likely best to pay the job done by a professional that has all the equipment. Just don’t be surprised when they show up with two machines, one for digging and one for everything else.

 

[4570Man]

the smaller excavator in the video beat the larger TLB in backfilling. they also did the comparisons with same size buckets.

I don’t care that they were equal. If time is important use a big bucket to dig a big hole. My 18” backhoe bucket holds 5.3 cubic feet. My 36” holds over 15. It’s obvious which one moves more dirt. I didn’t even finish the video to see that part. I’ve used a mini to dig ditches before and i hated it. My backhoe would be way faster.