First time purchase - HELP!

   / First time purchase - HELP! #1  
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Hello, I'm totally new to this and I'm looking to purchase my first tractor. I have a 16acre hobby farm. The land is relatively flat with a pond. Plan to use the tractor to move pallets of feed, move round bail, clear brush and fallen trees, move/put in rock, etc. I also plan to use it to put in a fence with a rented post hole digger. I'm currently looking between John Deere and Kubota. When talking to the salesmen, I was recommended the L4802HST from Kubota and the 3025E from John Deere. When looking myself, I was also looking at the 4044M from John Deere. Looking for any and all advice before I commit to making a purchase.
 
   / First time purchase - HELP! #2  
How heavy are the pallets of feed and round bales? A good starting point would be to ensure that the fel lifting capacity will comfortably handle the weight.
 
   / First time purchase - HELP!
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The pallets are typically around 1000lbs. The other thing that I am taking into consideration is moving my chicken coop and duck coop. They need moved from their current location but I'm hoping that they will only need to be moved once. And they don't have to be lifted very high, just high enough to move to a new location. The problem is I don't know how much they weigh. Duck coop is 8'x12' and the chicken coop is 10'x12'. The other consideration is do I go with a smaller tractor and just rent something to move the coops. Or do I just get a bigger tractor because who knows what I'll find to do with it in the future. Is it worth the additional money or will it just be unused power.
 
   / First time purchase - HELP! #4  
I suppose I'll be the first to say it....if you're looking at the L4802, give the MX a good look as well as it's close in price but definitely more capable -- larger frame/heavier, around 40% more lift, larger front tires, cat 2 3pt.

I'm very happy with my L4701 and would recommend it without hesitation (I think it would do all you describe well, aside from possibly the round bales depending on weight), but worth looking at a few other models to evaluate.

On that point, also worth looking at the L4060LE if you don't need the PTO horsepower.
 
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Regarding the coops, are they on skids? I assume you'd have to drag them vs lift them outright given the dimensions
 
   / First time purchase - HELP! #6  
Regarding the coops, are they on skids? I assume you'd have to drag them vs lift them outright given the dimensions
Dragging sure sounds better than trying to lift them. A couple long 2x10's slipped under the legs, some cross pieces and bracing and slide 'em.
 
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Dragging sure sounds better than trying to lift them. A couple long 2x10's slipped under the legs, some cross pieces and bracing and slide 'em.

Or roll it on a few sections of 4" schedule 40 PVC pipe.
 
   / First time purchase - HELP! #8  
Consider if you’ll want/need rear remotes for top and tilt or an offset flail mower to mow your pond banks. The Grand L’s have better ergonomics for placement of the rear remote levers as well as more weight.
 
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Regarding the coops, are they on skids? I assume you'd have to drag them vs lift them outright given the dimensions

+1 to this!

And if they're not on skids.. I'd be looking at how to jack them up and put them on skids. Just go slow and have as many support spots as possible under it and it usually goes pretty smooth. Where you end up in trouble is getting in a hurry.

Also +1 to using logs/posts as rollers but I generally find that more useful if you need to rotate the thing.. Rotating something on skids can be a challenge but jack it up a few inches, slap some rollers under it and it's easy peasy (in relative terms..) to roll it in a circle.

As to the tractor, look carefully at your use cases.. and think a bit about future use cases.. but don't get overly hung up on them. In particular think about if you want to use any ground engaging equipment (discs, plows, etc.. for field management or deer plots) which is largely limited by tractor weight. Total tractor weight also matters for things with leverage like offset flail mowers. The FEL capacity matters, within reason... I'm not sure how much the bales you're getting are, around here they vary from 600-1600lbs depending on size and the kind of feed in them. To get an accurate idea of capacity there consider the leverage (look at the "at the pin" number and the "at 24 in front of the pin" number and then consider that a pallet or a bale sticks out a lot further than 24".... but also that most of the numbers are a "full height" and the tractor can lift a lot more lower so if you don't need to lift them to high... you can squeeze a little more out). PTO HP also matters... again within reason, consider if you want to run a brush hog or flail mower, or a chipper, or ??, and look at what kind of HP the size that would make you happy time wise would take. I made a spreadsheet and kind of enumerated what I thought was most likely, what I could "get away with" (minimal equipment size), and if there were other limitations (gate/road size, barn entrance height, etc..) that would tie in to what I wanted.. and then just kind of ranked that and weighted it against the ROI.

I also like things built heavier than I usually want to use them though because using something right at spec all the time tends to wear it a bit more. But that's always a trade of with the $'s of the thing.

I started out looking at the L4802's... almost bought a used L4740 (which in many ways was nicer albeit older, the seller skeezed me out though), after talking turkey the kubota salesguy steered me towards an MX5200 (now Mx5400 would be the equivalent) for heavier usage.. and after pricing it all out I bought a 55hp Korean tractor with comparable specs. Whether that was wise or not time will tell... All of the kubota's were nicer tractors in most ways but I couldn't quite justify the cost delta to myself. The Grande L 60 series is also really nice.. it's a really slippery slope lol. I think my lot and usage is a bit larger and more complicated than yours though.. so a somewhat smaller tractor should suite most of your needs pretty well. I don't think the L4802 or the MX would be out of line.
 
   / First time purchase - HELP! #10  
Those tractors are going to struggle lifting round bales or pallets with much weight. Plus it's 40,000 thousand for something that isn't going to work well for your intended purpose using the FEL. No way I would buy either
 

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