First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer?

   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer? #11  
PTO should be on 540 unless your implement is rated for 1000 in which case the splines are different and you would have to change the pto shaft. That's why the middle of you pto shaft is hollow. There is a bolt inside there. I would assume that the 1000 pto shaft adapter would have came with the unit (and not an option) but I've had a couple and they are never there. Check your tool box, Shaft would be like 24 spline, as well as your implement would have the same.
Pto spins all the time. When the pto is off and not engaged you will be able to stop it (CAREFULLY) with a 2x4 or your foot. 2x4 IMO works better. Please note again (CAREFULLY).
If it does not stop than more than likely your cable is broken. Not uncommon but parts are NLA as far as I know. You may have to get a used one or repair the cable.
When operating the PHD,as soundguy said. take short bits. If you soil is as rocky as mine is you will surely be getting stuck. Since you don't have a reverser trans you can't hit reverse and spin it out. If lock up tight,disengage the pto and take a pipe wrench and back it out at the top of the auger.

Kirk

Before getting a manual for the SOS it's best to run the numbers on you trans to see if you have and ORC or DDC trans. The manuals are different. Parts get switch all the time on these old tractors and if it went through the exchange program in the mid '60's it might be switched out ot the DDC trans.
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer? #12  
How do I get the PTO to shut off? It's .

Thanks for NOT reading my post.

i told you why it would not turn off.

If you aren't going to read my posts.. I'll stop wasting my time posting in this thread.

have a good one!
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer? #13  
Well...it was designed in the 50's...if it is fluid coupling, it will probably lessen as the weather and oil get warmer. Put some load on it to see what is truly going on.

Any other PTO implements you could test it with?

it's a well known common issue to anyone that knows these old fords. the early sos pto units spun all the time.. some for the reason kirk mentioned. still powered and cable control broke or not adjusted. some just because no brake..
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer?
  • Thread Starter
#14  
Thanks for NOT reading my post.

i told you why it would not turn off.

If you aren't going to read my posts.. I'll stop wasting my time posting in this thread.

have a good one!


Sorry, I read your post. I just didn't quite understand it. Being new to tractors, I was envision a PTO brake being something that you apply to stop the shaft from spinning. What I was asking about is whether there was something that actually made the shaft disengage.

I was thinking of it like the PTO on my lawn mower. The mowing deck does not cut by default. You have to engage it to turn it on. You disengage to turn it off.

A brake on the other hand is a little different to me. You're actually applying a load to stop something from moving.

Sorry for the confusion. I read all your posts on my threads carefully, given that you are the recognized Ford expert on this forum, and as I'm finding in my google searches, several others.
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer? #15  
It really all boils down to 2 things;

1. is it fluid coupling?
2. Or is the engagement cable broken/out of adjustment?

One or the other. Once you determine what the problem is you can deal with it....
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer? #16  
I'd call rickb a ford expert.. i'm just a hobbiest hack. ;)

Are you pulling hte pto cable ont he dash to engage it?

have you tried stopping it with a 2x4 pressed against the spinning shaft when it is NOT in the engaged position?

DO NOT EVERY attempt to touch or stop the pto by hand....

Sorry, I read your post. I just didn't quite understand it. Being new to tractors, I was envision a PTO brake being something that you apply to stop the shaft from spinning. What I was asking about is whether there was something that actually made the shaft disengage.

I was thinking of it like the PTO on my lawn mower. The mowing deck does not cut by default. You have to engage it to turn it on. You disengage to turn it off.

A brake on the other hand is a little different to me. You're actually applying a load to stop something from moving.

Sorry for the confusion. I read all your posts on my threads carefully, given that you are the recognized Ford expert on this forum, and as I'm finding in my google searches, several others.
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer?
  • Thread Starter
#17  
Well, I can't wait any longer. Tomorrow evening I'm going to have to try digging. The ground is still soppin' wet and we can't seem to string together 3 dry days in a row here.

From what I've read, drilling in dry ground is much more difficult than wet ground. My concern is that the soil is going to be heavy, wet, and create a vacuum on my auger.
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer? #18  
remember.. you should be cleaning the hole OFTEN.. and go SLOW RPMS on the auger..
 
   / First time using PTO. Can I get a quick primer? #19  
remember.. you should be cleaning the hole OFTEN.. and go SLOW RPMS on the auger..
What he said -
I just taught my son to use the PHD.

Common mistakes:
Not enough power, auger stops
Too much power and poor vertical control, auger heads for china
Auger starts angling because it hit a large obstruction (we had some big roots, you may have rocks), remove obstruction or hole.
Keep it turning while it's in the hole
When "cleaning the hole out" be careful of large chunks slinging off
NO LOOSE CLOTHING

Good luck, it sure beats doing it by hand.
 

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