have someone watch the drip as you use one function at a time to see if you can tell when there is an increase in the frequency of the drip. If you can discern which function increases the drip flow that is a start. If by that you can't figure out which hose it is, then jog that function and watch the hoses you might be able to see which hose it is when it flexes when pressure hits it. If you still haven't figured it out then go to the cylinder that you are operating when the leak increases and follow the hoses back to the tunnel. If the leak increases when you extend the cylinder then the leak is the bottom hose on the cylinder if it is when you retract the cylinder then it is the top hose. if while following it back it comes to a valve then the hose that feeds that valve that goes through the tunnel is probably the one. Sometimes I have seen the hoses taken loose one at a time and pulled back and inspected for breaks or abrassions. Don't pull the hose ends back into the tunnel covering. Using the old hose to pull the new hose in is a good idea, After you have fixed the leak don't throw the old hose away if you can store it, you can use it as the third hose at a later time to pull another leaking hose out so you can measure it and get the same length back. I try to stay with the same length hose and try to rout it back in the same position as it was taken out. The only time i wouldn't do this if the hose looks like it had gotten pinched someway in the normal use of the machine. If the hose is frayed from rubbing then try to locate the place where the rubbing took place on the machine and see if there is a sharp edge that the hose rubs against and see if you can remedy that. It would be nice to have a spare hose of each size and length that is on your machine that way it would eliminate the down time of having to go get a new hose just put the spare on and at a later time you could restock your spare hose.woodlandfarms said:
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woodlandfarms said:
Carl,
Just a little curious, did PT give you any kind of warranty, or did you buy AS IS. They probably knew that would happen. It probably had oil all over the place when they got it back, and just cleaned it up, hoping a buyer would take it off their hands. They probably did not run the machine more than a couple of hours before they put it up for sale. You already have a list of fixes, what does PT say about that. Did they offer any help? They have a list of the serial numbers, and they know how old it is. They claim they don't know how old my 1445 is, that has the 45 HP gas engine, with radiator. I am guessing between 1988 to 1990. I have replaced two hydraulic motors, and many hoses, and rebuilt cylinders. replaced the tilt assembly. and have the old three point attachment hook up to bang my knuckles on.
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Short answer is a bit of yes and no. The things they repaired would be covered for 90 days but that is that.
Long story is that I bought this tractor from Ksimolo. Ken had won a bid on ebay for 2 1850's One running, one for parts. Ken decided to have both tractors up and running to have his brother purchase one. Brother backs out, Ken offers it to me as I was interested in the ebay listing as well. Ken put a TON of money into fixing mine up. My tractors history is kind of unkown. The ID tags were removed / lost a long time ago. The previous owner ran a slope mowing company and this tractor traveled the US. He claims he got 260 hours on the machine before the engine failed. The engine was replaced by Deutz for free, but mis-installed by the owner which led to an electrical fire. Tractor was parked outside and slowly stripped for parts. I think that the fire happened in 2004.
Anyway, Ken plunked a lot of coin into fixing both his and mine up (mine much more than his). It was quite gracious of Ken and he is a **** of a guy if I don't say so myself.
I think that Ken is also suffering from some oil leaks. I don't think his sat for as long as mine did, but I, in speaking for Ken, feel that PT did a poor job of teching the tractors once they were finished in Taz. I know Ken has a few leaks in his, I don't know how severe his are. I have not taken my tractor to get the welding done yet. I have to get back to LA so trying to maximize seat time and not down time...
For reference. I have 40+ hours on my PT and have used 2 cases of oil. I think I figured I was averaging a quart an hour.
As each leak is fixed, a new one pops up. I now see a leak in the square box on top of the tram pump. One of the side thingy's is leaking. Ohhhh grumble...
Short answer is a bit of yes and no. The things they repaired would be covered for 90 days but that is that.
Long story is that I bought this tractor from Ksimolo. Ken had won a bid on ebay for 2 1850's One running, one for parts. Ken decided to have both tractors up and running to have his brother purchase one. Brother backs out, Ken offers it to me as I was interested in the ebay listing as well. Ken put a TON of money into fixing mine up. My tractors history is kind of unkown. The ID tags were removed / lost a long time ago. The previous owner ran a slope mowing company and this tractor traveled the US. He claims he got 260 hours on the machine before the engine failed. The engine was replaced by Deutz for free, but mis-installed by the owner which led to an electrical fire. Tractor was parked outside and slowly stripped for parts. I think that the fire happened in 2004.
Anyway, Ken plunked a lot of coin into fixing both his and mine up (mine much more than his). It was quite gracious of Ken and he is a **** of a guy if I don't say so myself.
I think that Ken is also suffering from some oil leaks. I don't think his sat for as long as mine did, but I, in speaking for Ken, feel that PT did a poor job of teching the tractors once they were finished in Taz. I know Ken has a few leaks in his, I don't know how severe his are. I have not taken my tractor to get the welding done yet. I have to get back to LA so trying to maximize seat time and not down time...
For reference. I have 40+ hours on my PT and have used 2 cases of oil. I think I figured I was averaging a quart an hour.
As each leak is fixed, a new one pops up. I now see a leak in the square box on top of the tram pump. One of the side thingy's is leaking. Ohhhh grumble...
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Man, that's a lot of oil leaking out... that certainly quantifies your issues!woodlandfarms said:
I remember when those two PTs were on eBay -- someone in the South (Georgia, South Carolina, perhaps) as I recall...
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woodlandfarms said:
I'm sure you are frustrated by recurring problems, but it sounds as if the machine was pretty badly mistreated. Someone "teching" a machine has to be a bit clairvoyant to find a leak that hasn't happened yet, but I suppose there are various suspect areas to check.
When I was at PT a few years ago, I saw an 1845 that they were rebuilding so that it was equivalent to a new machine, and later had it for sale. If yours had that treatment, I doubt you'd have the problems, but it would have cost a ton more. Hope you catch the problems without too much down time.
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Dear Carl,
You have probably done this, but have you check the pressure on the various hydraulic sub-systems? The "keeps springing new leaks" reminds me of overpressure problems.
Then again, if it caught fire, lots of rubber could have gotten 'cooked'.
No ID tags, second engine; I finally understand how it is that PT couldn't assess your vintage. I had wondered.
All the best,
Peter
You have probably done this, but have you check the pressure on the various hydraulic sub-systems? The "keeps springing new leaks" reminds me of overpressure problems.
Then again, if it caught fire, lots of rubber could have gotten 'cooked'.
No ID tags, second engine; I finally understand how it is that PT couldn't assess your vintage. I had wondered.
All the best,
Peter
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woodlandfarms said:
You seem so calm....I would have taken a blow torch and sawzall to it by now!
Seriously, I admire your resolve. I've been trying to chase down a water leak in my wife's car for the past two weeks....No I wont't trade problems with you!
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Its kinda funny. My wife informed me that every vehicle I own has some sort of major oil leak. And generally unfixable. My Charger leaks from the transmission oil pan (common on MOPAR) and also from the valve covers (common on mopar when you put fancy aluminum covers on). My Ford 150 leaks from the tranny (a quart every now and then) and my little mazda leaks it into the heads... I think it is my curse... just one I accept any more...
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Maybe it's just a phase your going thru.woodlandfarms said:
I had a 47 Willeys leaked everywhere,71 Torino(351 Cleveland) tranny and Volkswagen Dasher engine blowby, that all leaked. I got rid of the Dasher when somebody walking nearby mentioned something about the exxon valdese.
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Carl , probably just a run of bad luck.woodlandfarms said:
I've owned 3- Ford Broncos, 1- Lincoln Navigator 3- Ford F-150's 2- Ford Vans. None of them leaked any oil anywhere, or gave me any problems except for a few minor things after racking up very high mileage common on most vehicles water pump etc.
I also owned four 1970 Barracudas 3 stock 1 modified 1 convertible .... all ran great except for one, had the stock carter 4- Barrel on it. It just ran a little rough. Hang in there.
