Flat tire fix

   / Flat tire fix #11  
I believe the orientation of the arrows have to do with how the orientation of the strands in the plies of the patch are.
Not a big of a deal for a tractor tire, but important if you're patching a vehicle tire.

Aaron Z
 
   / Flat tire fix #12  
If patching a tire I have switched to these. They are a combination plug and patch. Since going to them I have never had one fail. They cost a little more but are worth it. The ones I use have a thin wire in the plug to make getting it through the hole easy. You then just pull on the wire until the patch is tight against the tire. Afterwards just cut off the plug and wire.
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   / Flat tire fix #13  
If patching a tire I have switched to these. They are a combination plug and patch. Since going to them I have never had one fail. They cost a little more but are worth it. The ones I use have a thin wire in the plug to make getting it through the hole easy. You then just pull on the wire until the patch is tight against the tire. Afterwards just cut off the plug and wire.
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Those are a nice patch, I have plugged a tubeless tire to get by then when I had the time broken it down to install one of those after pulling the plug out which can be fun.
As far as the direction arrows I try to follow them it does require a much larger patch sometimes.
Many of the patches that I use in the tractor or implement tires are actually repair boots, multi ply boots they are expensive untill compared to a new tire.

This is were I get some of my repair products;
Or-853-1 - Flat Pack of 1 - BlackJack Tire Supplies, Inc.
 
   / Flat tire fix #14  
No, it does not make much sense to load tires.

We used to, but it was one of those things where Grandfather did it, so we always thought it was the right thing to do, but it just does not make much sense when you really sit down and think about it. (The Laws of Physics in other words)

[snip]

Curious...what planet do your live on Brokentrack?

It is pretty well documented that loaded tires are a great advantage if you need maximum traction or increased side slope stability. Also for counter balancing loader weight...

What laws of physics were you referring to?
 
   / Flat tire fix #15  
Curious...what planet do your live on Brokentrack?

It is pretty well documented that loaded tires are a great advantage if you need maximum traction or increased side slope stability. Also for counter balancing loader weight...

What laws of physics were you referring to?

None of my tires are loaded, very few of the ones on the farm are.
Loading was more popular in farm tractors quite a few years ago when we only had two wheel drive and worked them hard in drawbar situations.
With the advent of more 4wd and faster working speeds much fewer tires are loaded.
If ballast is needed most go with iron.
Flat repair is another reason for less tire loading the cost of tire repairs by mobile units on filled tires has gotten quite high.
It is not uncommon to be quoted over $600 plus materials for repairing a loaded tire.
 
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#16  
Those are a nice patch, I have plugged a tubeless tire to get by then when I had the time broken it down to install one of those after pulling the plug out which can be fun.
As far as the direction arrows I try to follow them it does require a much larger patch sometimes.
Many of the patches that I use in the tractor or implement tires are actually repair boots, multi ply boots they are expensive untill compared to a new tire.

This is were I get some of my repair products;
Or-853-1 - Flat Pack of 1 - BlackJack Tire Supplies, Inc.

Gee wiz that is a great link and I search all over online, funny how another part of the country will come up with different online contacts. Wish I knew about it before I did my tire wrong, booked marked for next time thanks!!!!!!!!!!
 
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#17  
If patching a tire I have switched to these. They are a combination plug and patch. Since going to them I have never had one fail. They cost a little more but are worth it. The ones I use have a thin wire in the plug to make getting it through the hole easy. You then just pull on the wire until the patch is tight against the tire. Afterwards just cut off the plug and wire.
28200232_xse_13788_pri_larg.jpg

I just watched a video on them, great for nail holes but not for side wall cut. How I Patch A Tire - YouTube
 
   / Flat tire fix #18  
None of my tires are loaded, very few of the ones on the farm are.
Loading was more popular in farm tractors quite a few years ago when we only had two wheel drive and worked them hard in drawbar situations.
With the advent of more 4wd and faster working speeds much fewer tires are loaded.
If ballast is needed most go with iron.
Flat repair is another reason for less tire loading the cost of tire repairs by mobile units on filled tires has gotten quite high.
It is not uncommon to be quoted over $600 plus materials for repairing a loaded tire.

Loaded tires will take the gears out of the rear end too if you get high-centered in the mud. All that weight surging forward will strip the gears right off the ring gear...now do not ask me how I know that!

If I am working in the gravel pit, and loading my dump trailer pulled by something else, I will put on a subsoiler or plow, and then put on a 55 gallon drum filled with sand. That will make the old girl dig. Primarily because I can bust the gravel up like a ripper first, and then because the weight is well out past the rear axle...real counterweight.

If I am moving the dump trailer by my tractor, then I cannot do that with all the hooking and unhooking, but going from loaded tires, to air-only tired has not made a difference in digging. But as you said, it is four-wheel drive too.

Loaded tires are a thing of the past.
 
   / Flat tire fix #19  
Well one day I had a flat on the PU and no patches or tools.
I flattened a nail, drilled a hole to insert the 'plug'. OK, tool now.
Then found some poly cord out of an old extension cord, inserted it into my DIY insert tool, dipped it in contact cement and inserted into the tire.
Then cut the excess 'cord' and lit the contact cement.

That was many miles and years ago and still not leaking!
OK, I now have a regulation patch kit and patches, plugs etc.

BUT, last week wanted to patch an inner tube and only to discover that the cement was all evaporated.
Go figure.
 
   / Flat tire fix #20  
We took the kids up to see the Trains in Norther Maine last year, which is a trip that has to be done to be appreciated. How in the world they got that much iron, that far north, near nothing is amazing. The kids really liked it, but we knew we would be on back roads.

To be exact, it was 170 miles of logging roads.

I bought all four new tires in anticipation of that, and sure enough we got a flat on the way back. The Logging Companies Check-Point had a plug kit so we plugged the tire and got home, but it ended up leaking still. I ended up buying another brand new tire: and the "old" one? It was less than 24 hours old before it died.
 

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