Food plot implement choice

[jeff9366]

RE: Plowing

Some tractors have Position Control, on other tractors Position Control is optional.

Some plows have shear bolt protection, some plows have "trip" protection, some have neither.

Position Control, shear bolt protection and "trip" protection are there to prevent your tractor from going vertical should the plow encounter an underground boulder or large root. As you have to plow at 4-mph to 5-mph for soil to flip, tractor, even a large tractor, can go vertical in one second.

Beware of the safeguards. Know how to use them. Belt up.

 

[Smallplot]

Couple questions. 1) What are you wanting to plant? 2) What size tractor do you have (HP)? 3) How far under grade are the stumps?

The Perfecta 10 is a field cultivator and not a very good choice for primary tillage. It is a light tillage tool for use in loose soil. The fred cain field ripper is light made for what it does. It has light springs and made with an angle iron frame which to me does not equate to long lasting primary tillage over numerous acres.

I assume your tractor is lower in HP with choosing these two implements which is why asked about size. If so your choices are limited based on ability to use different options.

Running a Cultipacker does not prevent soil washing, called erosion. It can help some but it will not prevent it. What a cultipacker does is firm the seedbed and provide better seed to soil contact with an additional benefit of soil moisture retention over fluffy soils.

Will wait to weigh in further until I know how big your tractor is and what you are wanting to plant.

 

[bushhog28]

I have an 11000 lb MFWD 105 HP massey ferguson 5611 with a CAT 3 3 pt with Michelin ag radials with deep lugs. She will pull cheap implements in half. It has lower link draft sensing and control, headland control, electronic height positioning etc. I'm not worried about the tractor, it will pull anything I can afford to buy. The criteria is:
1) Will level land and can be used to create food plot seed beds
2) Will not get destroyed hitting stumps at grade and below, 3 years old, 4-15 inches in diameter.
3) Can be used for hay or row crop operation later

UM and I pretty much agreed a perfecta hanging on a stump would be bad. I think the Fred Cain is in the same camp. I'm not sure a single disk on a harrow could hold the tractor back. I doubt it. So I'll likely pop disk blades.

Perhaps this implement does not exist....

Maybe a HD harrow or some sort of plow stand a chance. I'm looking at inline rippers now, maybe email Kuhn and ask them.

 

[mx1alex]

Like I said earlier. You don't even need to break the ground to get good food plots. Most stuff you can get by with just broadcasting then dragging something over it but even that part isn't necessary.

 

[dusty3030]

I have an 11000 lb MFWD 105 HP massey ferguson 5611 with a CAT 3 3 pt with Michelin ag radials with deep lugs. She will pull cheap implements in half. It has lower link draft sensing and control, headland control, electronic height positioning etc. I'm not worried about the tractor, it will pull anything I can afford to buy. The criteria is:
1) Will level land and can be used to create food plot seed beds
2) Will not get destroyed hitting stumps at grade and below, 3 years old, 4-15 inches in diameter.
3) Can be used for hay or row crop operation later

UM and I pretty much agreed a perfecta hanging on a stump would be bad. I think the Fred Cain is in the same camp. I'm not sure a single disk on a harrow could hold the tractor back. I doubt it. So I'll likely pop disk blades.

Perhaps this implement does not exist....

Maybe a HD harrow or some sort of plow stand a chance. I'm looking at inline rippers now, maybe email Kuhn and ask them.

A disk will ride up and over a stump. Any kind of plow will snag it.
If you decide to run a sub soiler or other heavy plow be sure there is a "fuse" other than your 3 point. I have personally witnessed a heavy 6 shank ripper with the a good bit of the 3 point assembly still attached to it and a John Deere 4840 with duals sitting about 20 feet in front of it with a good bit of it's 3 point assembly missing and most of its hydraulic oil gushing out of the hole in it's rear chunk. We dug around to try and figure out what he hit and it was an old buried cypress stump from land that was cleared way before any of us standing there was born.

Stumps rot slow, a dozer with a root rake will clear the majority of them.

 

[bushhog28]

Like I said earlier. You don't even need to break the ground to get good food plots. Most stuff you can get by with just broadcasting then dragging something over it but even that part isn't necessary.

putting in a 2 acre clover plot in a week or two using this method. Doesn't get you much seat time though.

 

[bushhog28]

You guys havn't priced root raking 30 acres with a dozer have you? I bet I can buy my own dozer and do it for less.

Seems like the disk is still winning...

 

[dusty3030]

You guys havn't priced root raking 30 acres with a dozer have you? I bet I can buy my own dozer and do it for less.

Sir you asked and folks with experience answered.
If you want food plots you don't need deep primary tillage.
If you want to level and reclaim cut over you need a bull dozer.

 

[mx1alex]

putting in a 2 acre clover plot in a week or two using this method. Doesn't get you much seat time though.

Maybe not much seat time but it's better for the soil... and if money is a concern it's cheaper.

 

[bushhog28]

Sir you asked and folks with experience answered.
If you want food plots you don't need deep primary tillage.
If you want to level and reclaim cut over you need a bull dozer.

I have a guy with a forestry tiller, goes about 18 inches deep. I guess I need to save money and call him one day. At least he can incorporate lime while he is at it.