FORD 134?

[TOMDUALLY]

I just bought a FORD 3600 (gas) and it calls for 'ford 134' or a suitable equivalent for the transmission oil. Problem is that I can't find a cross reference chart that list a suitable equivalent for it. The oil is milky white so I want to change it before I end up having to change all the bearings.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Why don't you just go to a New Holland dealer and get it?

If you can't go to a NH dealer or don't want to I am sure someone at TSC would be able to check to see what fluid they have that would be similar.

I just prefer to use the NH oils and not worry about if it meets the right specs and such.

 

[john_bud]

The Kubota UDT spec is very close. Then again about any trans/hydraulic fluid in 30 wt is close. Make sure you use trans/hydraulic and not straight hydraulic as there is a difference.

One trick is to add 2 qts of "Diesel 911" to the fluid or better is some of the additives like "Stanadyne" that will drop the water out of solution and drive it around for 10 min or so to mix it up good and then park it over night. The water will more easily be removed. I will then add 5 gal of diesel with additve and flush it again. If the hydraulics are run from the same sump you will have to drain and flush the cylinders too. A real messy job.

Also, Donaldson and others make water absorbing hydraulic filters. I would run one AFTER you put new fluid in for a month then change filters.

Typically water in the trans is from the gear shift lever boot being worn. A fantastic amount of water gets in that way.

 

[JC-jetro]

I just bought a FORD 3600 (gas) and it calls for 'ford 134' or a suitable equivalent for the transmission oil. Problem is that I can't find a cross reference chart that list a suitable equivalent for it. The oil is milky white so I want to change it before I end up having to change all the bearings.

You can purchase several brands from TSC that have rating of "Ford 134". The brand I bough was Mystic. I replaced my hyd fluid with that with no issues.

or you can buy NH brand

 

[TOMDUALLY]

Thanks for all of your replies, the problem that I have is that we have only one New Holland/Ford dealer and their prices make John Deere's look like a used VW dealer. example a wheel bolt 3/4'X1 1/2" fine thread $21.95 the nut was $24.95, now you can see why I was looking for a subsitute.

 

[JC-jetro]

Thanks for all of your replies, the problem that I have is that we have only one New Holland/Ford dealer and their prices make John Deere's look like a used VW dealer. example a wheel bolt 3/4'X1 1/2" fine thread $21.95 the nut was $24.95, now you can see why I was looking for a subsitute.

Tom,

TSC's Mystik transmission oil with SKU#8030643 meets Ford 134 specs. it is $19.75 for 5 gallons. it is a better price comparing to NH. I had it for a year in my tractor and visual observation so far does not show any degradation of oil for my not so intense use.

JC,

 

[Soundguy]

M2C134D will probably be the spec you need to look for.. though there are newer ones.. etc.

TSC carries it.. black pail / orange lable.. says universal trans draulic fluid

NAPA carries a tractor fluid # 27-200 UTF fluid

Walmart has a tractor and transdraulic fluid.. black pail.. blue/green label.. etc.

soundguy

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Neils site will give you an idea if your NH dealers prices are out of line. I always buy my fluids in the spring during my NH dealers spring sales and I forget how much I save but have had good luck with NH oils so I don't worry about switching New Holland Fluids

 

[JC-jetro]

Tom,

TSC's Mystik transmission oil with SKU#8030643 meets Ford 134 specs. it is $19.75 for 5 gallons. it is a better price comparing to NH. I had it for a year in my tractor and visual observation so far does not show any degradation of oil for my not so intense use.

JC,

Just a correction, the price I paid was $19.75 for a 2 gallon jug rather than a five gallon bucket. Funny thing is how our minds work, I was in meeting this am, got a little boring and my mind started wondering aimlessly and then I thought.. Hmmm .. I remembered I bought 2 gallon bucket and not 5, and my post was incorrect. When I came out of the meeting the time was expired for me to edit my post.

Well, I guess I earned my keeps today.. What a country .. I say

JC,

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Just a correction, the price I paid was $19.75 for a 2 gallon jug rather than a five gallon bucket. Funny thing is how our minds work, I was in meeting this am, got a little boring and my mind started wondering aimlessly and then I thought.. Hmmm .. I remembered I bought 2 gallon bucket and not 5, and my post was incorrect. When I came out of the meeting the time was expired for me to edit my post.

Well, I guess I earned my keeps today.. What a country .. I say

JC,

So the New Holland brand of oil isn't that far out of line for normal prices and you are getting the recommended oil.

 

[JC-jetro]

So the New Holland brand of oil isn't that far out of line for normal prices and you are getting the recommended oil.

Not by much Robert, If I can remember it I think NH oil was just a bit shy of $3/quart, so two gallons of NH probably cost about $25 vs & 20 of Mystik.

JC,

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Not by much Robert, If I can remember it I think NH oil was just a bit shy of $3/quart, so two gallons of NH probably cost about $25 vs & 20 of Mystik.

JC,

I posted a link in one of my replys above to Neil Messicks website that list the prices of all the New Holland fluids but will post it again New Holland Fluids

For 1 qt of 134 is $3.24/qt, 1 gallon is $12.54 and a 5 gallon bucket is $51.82. I didn't find a price for 2.5 gallon jugs there. Also, if you buy during the dealers spring sale you can usually get at least 10% off.

I use to buy cheap grease from TSC but it really was cheap and I was tired of the oil running out of the cheap grease tubes. I ended up buying a case of NH grease for less then I was paying for the cheap grease and the NH grease is much better. The oil doesn't run out anywhere near as bad as the other junk. I bought the case 2 years ago and am almost out of grease now but should have enough for this spring. I will have to look over my inventory before spring time.

 

[Soundguy]

I liked the CNH blue grease. i just used my last tube of it from some cases i had bouhgt a couple years ago. In a pinch I had to run to napa to get a case of their grease to finish the other machines.. was dismayed to find cnh no longer had the blue grease...

soundguy

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I liked the CNH blue grease. i just used my last tube of it from some cases i had bouhgt a couple years ago. In a pinch I had to run to napa to get a case of their grease to finish the other machines.. was dismayed to find cnh no longer had the blue grease...

soundguy

That is going to be disappointing if its true. I only have enough of the blue grease to make it thru this year.

Do you know why they don't make the blue grease anymore? Is the replacement suppose to be better?

 

[Soundguy]

Dunno.. but may be it has to do with being bought .. or merged with case.. ??

dunno know about the new grease.. since they didn't have blue ( calle dto check ).. I didn't drive the 45 minutes to get some.. instead drove 15 minutes to napa for some 'red' grease.

soundguy

 

[djradz]

I think you can only use that red grease in the CNH Case tractors. Blue must be used in the NHs. Red and blue mixed make violet. Some day if CNH comes up with a violet tractor, then that would be appropriate.

I seem to recall that Advance Auto maybe sells a blue Valvoline synthetic product. Maybe it was only semi or a blend, in which case, I wouldn't waste my money.

Seriously, if someone finds the blue NH grease, let us know.

 

[cokdnlokd]

In RE your NH dealer, where I live it is the Massey dealer that should have a change room at the front door so you can disrobe and back in for your shocking information on prices

 

[RICT]

I am not sure what cost you are getting for the Ford 134 hydrau/Trans fluid but the TSC prices for Mystic is half that of what the Dealership quoted me: 5 gal @ $78.68, 2.5 gal @ $45.01 and 1 gal at $20.52! I am glad to see this forum. I will definitely go check out TSC's brands!

Considering I work for Chrysler and know how much our MOPAR parts cost the consumer, I will not comment on mark-up, though I will say that with my employee discount, I still will not buy Mopar parts unless I have no other choice!

I am wondering when OEM's will get off their mountains and join us real folks!

I will check out the Ford Fluid Cost link someone provided! Thanks!

 

[Captain Eric]

Well, topped up the crankcase with straight hydrolic fluid instead of the required 134 type. Used it a an hour or so, any ideas if I've damaged anything. Plan on drain and change first opportunity.

 

[Soundguy]

crankcase? if you put utf OR hyd oil into a crankcase I'd change immediatly.

if you meant you topped of a hyd resv with utf instead of plain 'jack oil' hyd fluid.. then i wouldn't do anything.. you put in a higher quality oil than it already had!

soundguy