Ford 1920 will not go into gear

[MOTractor]

i agree. With the tractor not running, put it in gear and range, push the clutch all the way and bump starter. If the tractor lurches forward or backward, bingo. If it doesn't, your clutch is not engaged. Make sure the brake is not set when you try this.

Won't the safeties stop me from doing this?

 

[GreenYellow]

Won't the safeties stop me from doing this?

I doubt it -- although I don't own a 1994 Ford 1920.
The safeties on my Deere 670 won't prevent it. If you're in the seat and the clutch pedal is depressed, it should start.

 

[MOTractor]

I'll give it a try tonight.

 

[GreenYellow]

I'll give it a try tonight.

Cool. Let us know.

...and for clarity... BUMP the starter -- just enough to see if the tractor moves. If the engine does start, and the clutch is in fact engaged, you'll be rolling. Keep that in mind. Choose a low gear.

If the tractor is in gear (with clutch pedal fully depressed) and does NOT lurch forward when you hit the starter, it means the clutch is NOT the problem.
If it does lurch forward, you need clutch work.

 

[MOTractor]

Cool. Let us know.

...and for clarity... BUMP the starter -- just enough to see if the tractor moves. If the engine does start, and the clutch is in fact engaged, you'll be rolling. Keep that in mind. Choose a low gear.

Low gear and reverse - if I run through the workbench and out the back wall of the shop I may be in the doghouse!

 

[GreenYellow]

Low gear and reverse - if I run through the workbench and out the back wall of the shop I may be in the doghouse!

LOL

That would be a very real possibility if you were in the wrong gear with a locked clutch. If that happens, take pictures.

 

[MOTractor]

Update: With the tractor off i put it in low range, reverse, and 2nd gear. I turned the key and it started and immediately started started moving in reverse. As a test I put on the brake to see if I was fully engaged - I was. I probably could have stopped it but it would have killed the motor.

Clutch?

 

[GreenYellow]

Update: With the tractor off i put it in low range, reverse, and 2nd gear. I turned the key and it started and immediately started started moving in reverse. As a test I put on the brake to see if I was fully engaged - I was. I probably could have stopped it but it would have killed the motor. Clutch?

Yes. Or throw out bearing as mentioned before.
At least you eliminated some stuff...

 

[Soundguy]

yup, narrows it down nicely.

Pilot might even be seized.

 

[MOTractor]

We have decided to split the tractor to check the clutch. If the clutch is bad I will order it on Monday. So expect a flurry of questions

1st batch:

Question 1: How do you support the back half of the tractor AND make it where you can roll the back half away?
Question 2: Front half, the oil pan looks like sheet metal so I do not think I can use that as a support point. Looks like I can use the front frame rail - how do you do yours?
Question 3:In one of the pics below - are those what the manual are calling the pressure and return lines?
Question 4: In the other pic, just confirming that those are the bolts that actually hold the halves together.

Thank you!