Loader Ford 3000 Loader Install

[401FordManNZ]

Hi All, I am wanting to install a loader on my ford 3000, the one I have on offer is currently on a ford 5000, the question I have is the loader mount on the bellhousing the same between the two models, I am aware the front cradle is completely different,but if the dimensions are the same for the bellhousing then I can easily fab up the front end and run a support to the rear axle to save snapping the tractor in two.

 

[RickB]

Bellhousing mounts are the same. Distance from the ground to the mount points are probably quite different.

 

[Opti-Mist]

Does your 3000 have the expanding shoe brakes or wet disc brakes (I'm not remembering when the change was made). If the latter the rear mounting would be the same. As Rick points out you'll be closer to the ground. Also, the front wheel spindles will be the weak point.

 

[Soundguy]

Does your 3000 have the expanding shoe brakes or wet disc brakes (I'm not remembering when the change was made). If the latter the rear mounting would be the same. As Rick points out you'll be closer to the ground. Also, the front wheel spindles will be the weak point.

3000 has the outboard brakes and radius rod front axle shared on all the previous models.

4000 65+ started the inboard brakes..

soundguy

 

[FULLPULL]

We have a 3000 with a 730 ford loader 60" bucket . We have broken many front spindles and front end parts over the years . Just dont push it hard with a load .

A 3400 front end is stronger and will withstand more .

Ours has a cast oil pan and a subframe that ties from the pan to the rear axe housing at the fender u bolts to keep it together .

 

[Opti-Mist]

3000 has the outboard brakes and radius rod front axle shared on all the previous models.

4000 65+ started the inboard brakes..

soundguy

Later on the 3600 got the inboard brakes in basically the 4000 rear end. Later versions of the 3000 were generically referred to as 3000s as well leading to some confusion. I've found it necessary to ask some leading questions to make sure what we're talking about.

 

[Soundguy]

uh.. i'm pretty sure the 3600 brakes were the plain drums too.( there also were hyd options ) you may be thinking of a 4000SU or 4600SU they have the rear of a 4xxx essentially, yet the LD front of the 3000. I believe the 3610 also had mechanical outboard drum brakes, and the 3910 had the inboard brakes.

soundguy

 

[401FordManNZ]

Yep she has the plain old drum brakes, I intend to run a frame to the rear axle and pick up on two of the bolts where the linkage arm stabilizers are as I have seen numerous 2,3xxx plain broken in half where the gearbox flange bolts to rear end. I guess I must have to set the relief valve on the loader so it won't be pushed to lift any huge weights, What do you think around 1000 pounds? It will mainly just get used to load stock feed trailers with meal

 

[KRB]

I have a 74 ford 3000 with a case front end loader. Had to fab all the bracket for bellhouse and rear axel hook up. Have not had any front end trouble as of yet approximate 5 years use on it. Will post some pics tommorow

 

[Soundguy]

Yep she has the plain old drum brakes, I intend to run a frame to the rear axle and pick up on two of the bolts where the linkage arm stabilizers are as I have seen numerous 2,3xxx plain broken in half where the gearbox flange bolts to rear end. I guess I must have to set the relief valve on the loader so it won't be pushed to lift any huge weights, What do you think around 1000 pounds? It will mainly just get used to load stock feed trailers with meal

1000# will be low for a loader, even with no subframe. I use 1-arm ford loaders and even those, with only 1 trans support, and 1 front support are rated for 1200#

soundguy

 

[whodat526]

i would never put a loader of off a 5000 on a 3000 to heavy you need a arm arm bandit or a 3400 tractor and loader a 3000 front end is to light and a 3600 never had wet brakes all drum

 

[KRB]

Not sure what model loader but it is a case. I got it from a friend who was going to take it to scape. Didn't cost much to rebuild. Never had front problems, but not making a living off this tractor either.

 

[KRB]

Oh, one more thing. I got a extra set of wheels with wider tires. Keeps the front end from rutting in the wet winters here.

 

[whodat526]

they will hold a loader but if you are moving round bales of hay and other heavy stuff the front spindles have a problem with bending and the king pin wearing out faster and bending the radius rods i have had quite a few 3000 loader tractors and 4100's all having front axle trouble the 2 tractor i use personaly to move hay is 3000's with 1 arm loader and never had any trouble the 1 arm loader is what was design for this style front end and the others where made for the 3400's

 

[Soundguy]

Yep.. I've moved hay for years with a ford 850 with 1-arm laoder, and a 660 with 1-arm laoder. have used a naa and even a 951 with 1-arm laoder to move hay on occasion.

soundguy

 

[whodat526]

Yep.. I've moved hay for years with a ford 850 with 1-arm laoder, and a 660 with 1-arm laoder. have used a naa and even a 951 with 1-arm laoder to move hay on occasion.

soundguy

i think they are the best for that task but some people think there funny looking but if they work thats all that matters

 

[Soundguy]

yep.. I love em. they were the only loaders I had for a LOOONG time. I must have 6-7 of them now, plus a 2 post superior 'utility' loader on another 850.

real monster. i use it to lift the 2000-2400# rounds I sometimes am forced to get.

i much prefer the 700-1100 # bales though..

soundguy

 

[401FordManNZ]

Yeepers 2400# bales, what size are they? how do you feed them out? thanks to krb for the great photos on the ford 3000 setup looks supurb! Points taken with the weak 3000 front end and spindles will just take it easy

 

[Soundguy]

i believe the 2400#'s are the 6x5

I have also gotten some 5x5 that are around 1300-2000# ( depending on moisture and tightness.

I normally prefer 4x5 in the 700-1100 # range.. I used to use 1-arm loaders for those.. but 1300# maxes them out... I go the bigger 2-post loader to get the 2000# stuff.

again.. I don't really like the larger bales.

for feeding out.. just hayrings..e tc.


soundguy

 

[cbarlandandcattleco]

Where do I look for a front end loader for my 70 model ford 3000? I live in Ft. Worth Texas area? appreciate any help.