Egon
Epic Contributor
At one time Ford had about 7% of Cummins but have since sold it. The time frame for this is ??? maybe 8/10 years ago.
Egon
Egon
Ford-Cummins
- Thread starter Hambone
- Start date
- Views: 1372
BobinCols
Silver Member
I don't think you will see a 5.9 Cummins in a Ford F250-550..
The engine in the Brazilian Ford website appeared to have an old style rotary injection pump, not an electronic pump they use now. The 7.3 Powerstroke is the same engine that IHC uses in their trucks (called a T444E). 444 cu in, turbo-electronic.
The engine in the Brazilian Ford website appeared to have an old style rotary injection pump, not an electronic pump they use now. The 7.3 Powerstroke is the same engine that IHC uses in their trucks (called a T444E). 444 cu in, turbo-electronic.
OP
Hambone
Platinum Member
This is my guess. They are looking for an engine to put in there F650-750 series trucks, it would not make much sense to buy an engine from who they are competing against(truck wise) in the same market.
cowboydoc
Super Member
- Joined
- Dec 23, 2000
- Messages
- 6,725
- Tractor
- JD 8320 MFWD, JD 6415 MFWD, FEL, and cab, John Deere MFWD 4600, John Deere 4020, John Deere 4430, John Deere 455 mower, Deutz, and Gehl 4610 perkins skidsteer
International does use the powerstroke in their medium duty trucks. The new 6.0 powerstroke was used exclusively in International medium duty trucks for 2 years before it even was released in the Ford. I'm not saying that the cummins isn't a great engine by any means. Ford did want to offer a choice between the cummins and the powerstroke. But Dodge purchased the exclusive rights for the cummins in the light duty truck market. As far as Ford in their medium duty trucks you actually have three choices. There is a cat motor, the cummins, or the powerstoke.
JerryG
Super Member
This is what AutoWeek had to say about the supply of diesels for the F-150 in the December 10, 2003 issue. It also tells what suppliers thought about supplying to Ford. AutoWeek Ford Diesels
Joe1
Platinum Member
Around 1961 or so, GM offered a small diesel, I believe it was a 4 banger in the GMC pickup. It just didn't sell. Those were the years when the GMC had a 301 and 351 cu in gas V-6.
The 5.9 Cummins is pretty heavy for a "half ton" truck. It's about 500 lbs heavier than a gasoline V-8.
There's probably a good market for a smaller diesel for a "half ton". I'd buy one once they are perfected.
The 5.9 Cummins is pretty heavy for a "half ton" truck. It's about 500 lbs heavier than a gasoline V-8.
There's probably a good market for a smaller diesel for a "half ton". I'd buy one once they are perfected.
wroughtn_harv
Super Member
The next dawg we're going to see marketed in the light truck market is going to be a Durango--Colorado sized diesel with either this or another motor awful similar.
If you'll notice your local UPS in the rural areas are using these puppies and they have a GVW in the neighborhood of eight thousand pounds, have a five cylinder diesel with lots of pep and a five speed automatic trans. If I was in a business where a van body worked for me I'd look at one of these real close.
But that same motor and trans would do just fine in a half ton.
Mercedes buying Chrysler and then refusing to chryslerize mercedes and instead mercedesing chrysler might be a good thing for the consumer in the long run.
If you'll notice your local UPS in the rural areas are using these puppies and they have a GVW in the neighborhood of eight thousand pounds, have a five cylinder diesel with lots of pep and a five speed automatic trans. If I was in a business where a van body worked for me I'd look at one of these real close.
But that same motor and trans would do just fine in a half ton.
Mercedes buying Chrysler and then refusing to chryslerize mercedes and instead mercedesing chrysler might be a good thing for the consumer in the long run.
TheKid
Gold Member
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( This is my guess. They are looking for an engine to put in there F650-750 series trucks, it would not make much sense to buy an engine from who they are competing against(truck wise) in the same market. )</font>
The Power Stroke is the standard engine in the 650-750 series, but Cummins or Caterpiller engines are available as options.
The Power Stroke is the standard engine in the 650-750 series, but Cummins or Caterpiller engines are available as options.
HalseyGreen
Silver Member
My son and I stopped by a Dodge dealer this past weekend and found the MB Sprinter Vans, mentioned above, being sold as rebadged Dodges.