Ford finally came to their senses

[Ford850]

RF I think that's a perfect fit for your needs. This new smaller EB engine replaces (from years ago) the old 6 cylinder truck needs. Those older 6's did some things ok, but never really produced much better MPGs than the 8's and definitely lacked power on the occasions when you needed it. Your new truck stretches the value in both directions. It has nearly the power of mid 8 cylinder engines when you need it, and it provides better MPGs than any of the 6 cylinders.

 

[clemsonfor]

Isn't that the truth. My last truck purchase & currently own is a 2002 3/4 ton ext. cab. It is still hard for me to think I paid $20,000. That is, until I see the prices on current 1/2 ton trucks. It won't be long at these rates, that "Owning" an automobile will be impossible for the average person.

Im 34 and have never bought a new automobile and don't see myself ever doing so!! Prices are so so unreal that I cant afford it. Newest vehicle I have ever bought was 8 years old and about 85k miles on it. The last one we just bought a year ago was 10 years old and had 150k miles on it. And I have a good job, not a true white collar job but definitely not a blue collar job.

 

[fordmantpw]

RF I think that's a perfect fit for your needs. This new smaller EB engine replaces (from years ago) the old 6 cylinder truck needs. Those older 6's did some things ok, but never really produced much better MPGs than the 8's and definitely lacked power on the occasions when you needed it. Your new truck stretches the value in both directions. It has nearly the power of mid 8 cylinder engines when you need it, and it provides better MPGs than any of the 6 cylinders.

Heck, the 2.7L is more powerful and has more torque than the largest available V8 in an F150 from only 6 years ago. The 2010 5.4L had 310/365 I believe, whereas the 2.7L makes 325/375. Pretty impressive for a little V6!

 

[clemsonfor]

Have you actually checked it? Based on my experience those computers don't always give accurate milage.

Yea like my 04 sequoia with 10000 miles or so since the last reset says 14.8 avg mpg and I hand calculate it and track fuel in a phone app and best I have gotten in a good while is just at 15mpg. But there is almost every tank is below the average with most in the 13mpg range.

 

[clemsonfor]

This question should get you a lot of opinions. My 2015 had 10086 miles on it when I bought it. It was a demo that had never been registered. My service guy at the dealership pulled it up on their computer and it showed to have had an oil change at 7200 miles. I had the oil & filter changed at 13546 miles, and right now it has 18322 miles on it. So first oil change at 7200, second at 13546 or 6246 miles, and now it's been 4776 miles since the last oil & filter change. I checked the oil yesterday (something I rarely do anymore) and it might have been as much as half a quart below full. The oil life monitor showed 53%. So . . . apparently Ford thinks it can go 10000 between changes.

Now maybe they're right. But some of us are old enough to remember when cars didn't have an oil filter, you changed oil every 1000 miles and if you didn't have to add more than one quart between changes, you had a really fine engine. But they added an oil filter and first thing you know, cars were going 3000 miles between changes, then 5000, then 7500, and now up to 10000.

Now there can be no doubt that the Ford engineers know a great deal more than I, but I reckon I'm just too old to go by that oil life monitor (I'm not sure it's based on anything other than mileage), so I reckon I'll keep changing oil & filter at 5,000 miles, and, yep, it's a synthetic oil, or as Motorcraft labels it, a "Synthetic Blend".

Totally different truck but my work truck I just traded in was a 12 Colorado with the 5cy. It didn't tell you how much life was left on the oil but did have a message to change the oil. It went off at like 9700 miles usually but when I just turned it in last week I think I had gone 11000 miles or so since the last change.

Me personally I would not wait the first 5000 miles or whatever. I would drop that initial oil out at 2000 or so. Even if its not necessary it would make me feel better and it certainly wont hurt anything.

 

[clemsonfor]

If you think those coolers are a gimmick my local radio station (b97.3) just advertised chevy giving away about or over a grand onto tickets to a concert and (I think, maybe could have been another option) a 500 gift card

I use to remember just a few years ago them giving cash away to buy a car. LIke $1000 or maybe more?

 

[clemsonfor]

When I was still a teenager, I bought a '36 Plymouth for $50 intending to make a hot rod by putting a bigger engine in it. But the oil that was in it was black and thick. So I drained it, then put 4 quarts of kerosene and one quart of oil in it to flush it out. When I started it up, I only let it run maybe 3 to 5 seconds, shut it down, drained it again, and put fresh oil in it. And then I discovered that it had almost NO compression.:laughing:

How many remember the canister type oil filters, early ones up high with oil lines to and from. You took the top off, pulled the filter out, then used a suction pump to draw out the old oil, put a new filter in, and put the top back on with a new gasket. Then Ford started mounting them on the side of the block, and eventually we were selling an adapter to put on Fords so they could use the spin on filters.

And how many remember when someone came up with the bright idea of using a roll of toilet tissue for a filter in the canister type oil filter? I don't think that idea lasted long. Most of us wouldn't even try it once.

had a canister just like that on the 1981 Mercedes 300D I drove for a short while.

 

[clemsonfor]

I have two MotorGuard filters that were modified for use with fluid (engine oil, transmission/hydraulic fluid) by an old boy down in Texas by the name of Ralph Woods. They use a roll of toilet paper as the filter medium:

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Once upon a time MotorGuard actually marketed these for engine oil, then for whatever reason (company changed hands, taken over by the kids, etc.) they quit doing it.

They are great as a bypass - not primary - oil filter.

At one point I had them on my Dodge Sprinter (Mercedes 5 cylinder diesel) - one on the engine and one on the transmission:

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Normally, the Sprinter would go around 12K to 15K miles, using just the stock OEM oil filter and the OEM oil change sensor (which I believe measures the di-electric component of the oil, to determine when the oil needs to be changed)

I think the longest I went, doing regular filter changes on the bypass filter and topping off ... along with used oil analysis from Blackstone, before draining the sump and changing out the oil, was somewhere between 60K and 75K miles. And the oil in the sump was still actually good at that point ... I could have gone longer.

The van currently has over 435K miles on it, original engine.

BTW, these type of filters are still available under another brand name, which I don't recall offhand.

Why would you use toilet paper filters....even today? Seems like the suction to pull thorough them would be a lot more than traditional filter media, esp with the tube in the center and they make filters today for auxiliary oil filters that have to do a better job of filtration than a roll of TP?

 

[ovrszd]

I agree with Greg, I think RF bought the right truck for his needs and it will last a long time.

 

[Arc weld]

Totally different truck but my work truck I just traded in was a 12 Colorado with the 5cy. It didn't tell you how much life was left on the oil but did have a message to change the oil. It went off at like 9700 miles usually but when I just turned it in last week I think I had gone 11000 miles or so since the last change.

Me personally I would not wait the first 5000 miles or whatever. I would drop that initial oil out at 2000 or so. Even if its not necessary it would make me feel better and it certainly wont hurt anything.

Why would you let it go 9700-11,000 miles between oil changes? I think the message on the dash is saying it's overdue. Why treat a work truck any different than your personal vehicle? It's more likely to break down from lack of maintenance and leave you stranded which isn't going to make your boss too happy or your customer.