Ford shop can't work on diesel F350, even the u-joint.

[haveissues]

Maybe they didn't like removing cabs for engine repairs??

Yeah, seeing a bunch of f250's in my friends dealership with the cabs off along with the 7k repair bills to go with them cured me of wanting one.

 

[Beltman60]

why don't they just pay them what they are worth and maybe they would stay
If the guy down the street can pay him more then they should too
if hes not worth it then when he moves around everyone eventually will find out in the area

 

[Peacock]

why don't they just pay them what they are worth and maybe they would stay If the guy down the street can pay him more then they should too if hes not worth it then when he moves around everyone eventually will find out in the area

The problem with that is that only the current employer knows what he is truly worth. And even then, they are only going to pay enough to keep the techs from leaving.

 

[Beltman60]

thats what they need to do pay enough to keep them
look at all the customers this dealership is loosing
anyone going to buy a new truck there if they have to take it over to the next city to get it worked on?
I surely wouldn't

There needs to be a relationship between buyer and seller

So what's it going to cost this dealership now that he isn't selling any more trucks?

if he gave the guy a $2/hr raise that would cost him 4k a year
what is he going to loose in business over the next year?

I'm vp of a small aerospace tool shop (35 employees)
I do all the hiring and letting people go
we have cnc machines that cost the company up to 300k for one pc of equipment
now with that kind of investment I still believe that my greatest assets are my employees
without good employees that pc of equipment is useless
therefor I pay them what they are worth and do my best to keep them
I too have allot invested in these guys and wouldn't like loosing them
on the other hand I don't take to kindly with threats but my employees know my door is always open to talk these things out

 

[Peacock]

thats what they need to do pay enough to keep them look at all the customers this dealership is loosing anyone going to buy a new truck there if they have to take it over to the next city to get it worked on? I surely wouldn't There needs to be a relationship between buyer and seller So what's it going to cost this dealership now that he isn't selling any more trucks? if he gave the guy a $2/hr raise that would cost him 4k a year what is he going to loose in business over the next year? I'm vp of a small aerospace tool shop (35 employees) I do all the hiring and letting people go we have cnc machines that cost the company up to 300k for one pc of equipment now with that kind of investment I still believe that my greatest assets are my employees without good employees that pc of equipment is useless therefor I pay them what they are worth and do my best to keep them I too have allot invested in these guys and wouldn't like loosing them on the other hand I don't take to kindly with threats but my employees know my door is always open to talk these things out

You sir and your kind are few and far between.

In the cutthroat automotive industry things just don't work that way.

 

[flusher]

And it's only going to be worse when these little 1.5L green diesels start showing up in increasing numbers and there's a shortage of certified diesel techs.

 

[Beltman60]

it's nice working at a small business (other than the gov. trying to eliminate us)
helps having machines like that for some of my projects :thumbsup:

 

[timswi]

True. But then they can make you sign a paper that says you have to pay them back for the training if you leave before X number of years, before you get the training. BTDT.

That's the way it is at my place...If they pay for your MBA or JD, you sign a contract to work for 2 years after graduation or else you pay back a pro-rated amount depending on your post-grad tenure. Fair enough I think.

 

[sparc]

The grass is much greener in other pastures....

until you get there.

 

[sparc]

What you are proposing was outlawed ~150 years ago. Funny-looking President with a beard and a stove pipe hat. Emancipation proclamation or something like that. Made it into the Constitution too, but that was a few years later.

What handirifle mentions occurs now-a-days in the building trades, at least some of them. When you sign on for that 5 year apprenticeship you agree to repay the union for your training if you bolt after you get out of your time (or before in some cases) within so many years. No different than someone who buys an established business from another and in the sale agreement there is a clause that says you can't open a competing business within x number of miles or for x number of years to my way of thinking.

It's not slavery as you imply, but it does have its roots in those who indentureded themselves to get to America in colonial times. Since the would-be apprentice signs on to this with full knowledge of the restriction and it is controlled regulations established by the US Dept of Labor and the various state DOLs which overseapprenticeshipip programs. The trades have not always had this payback stipulation in the apprentice agreements, and they realized that a significant percentage of their students were sticking around for the over 2000 hours of classroom instruction then bolting to strike out on their own or work for the competition. They decided they could no longer afford to educate the competition so they added the payback clause.