sea2summit
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I'm not arguing they're not great cans and probably the top of the line metal cans. But man for the price I could buy a new plastic can every few years for the rest of my life and probably come out ahead.
Found a great gas can spout!!
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I am still using plastic gas cans I bought for Y2K....over 20 years old.
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Sawyer, I have been lifting the 5 gallon cans to fuel the tractor - not a favorite task. So, I am interested in the pump idea. My tractor's diesel tank - like most I assume - is at least 5 feet above ground level and the hose would have to be even higher to make the turn into the tank. However, comments on Amazon mentioned the pumps do not work unless the gas can is basically level with the tank you are filling. That makes no sense.
Anyway, I am about to pull the trigger on one of the battery powered pumps but thought I would check with you - I am assuming there is no issue pumping from a can on the ground into a 5 foot high tank?
Sawyer Rob
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The small pumps that I have, will not pump 5' up, for small amounts of fuel for smaller tractors/generators/ATV's I just buy fuel in cans and put them near level, and let the pump do the rest.
Lifting the can isn't the problem for me, it's pouring with it, so the pumps work great for me.
For tractors that use a lot of fuel, I have a 12V fuel pump that's used in a fuel tank.
SR
Lifting the can isn't the problem for me, it's pouring with it, so the pumps work great for me.
For tractors that use a lot of fuel, I have a 12V fuel pump that's used in a fuel tank.
SR
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Thanks. You have saved me from making a mistake. I will check on other options.
LittleBill21
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@beowulf
Look at this, even more money then the no Spill, (kind of ridiculous to be honest), but mine is setup the same way, but i knew i would never be able to hold it, i rest this on the steering wheel, and it just takes some hand pressure to hold the lever down, but you don't hold the weight of the can at all, drains pretty quick as well, need to tilt a little at the end, but the can is pretty much empty at this point
Surecan 5 Gallon Self Venting Diesel Fuel Can Container with 180 Degree Rotating Nozzle, Thumb Trigger Flow Control, & Child Safe Fill Cap, Yellow: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
Surecan 5 Gallon Self Venting Diesel Fuel Can Container with 180 Degree Rotating Nozzle, Thumb Trigger Flow Control, & Child Safe Fill Cap, Yellow: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
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Thanks Eddie!
ponytug
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It is great to see all these great tips on refueling!
I am still lifting my Wavian cans, so for the moment I am ok. With any sort of shoulder injury, that would be gone in a flash.
I have only had my Wavian diesel and gas cans for a little over a decade. They still look and act brand new. I replaced the o-rings ("D" rings?) on the gas can a year ago. Something in the fuel caused the originals to start cracking. The diesel cans are fine.
I love that they are leakproof. As in totally leak proof. I can fill up the Wavian tanks at the gas station and drive them home in the car over a very twisty, winding road, and not a whiff of fuel leakage. The same was never true of the plastic Jerry cans, even the no-spill cans, in part because there is 2000' of elevation gain, which tended to force fuel out of the plastic cans as the fuel sloshed around in the cans on corners. I routinely open the Wavian fuel cans a month or three later, and they are still under pressure from the altitude change. I no longer have any trouble with gasoline going bad. For me, those reasons make the Wavians worth every penny. I just used 5 gallons of pre-Covid gasoline with no issues. (I don't use much gasoline on the ranch, and storage is one of my issues.)
I have a couple of the No-Spill plastic cans still that I reserve for refueling things with small fuel tanks, like my gasoline generator, and for 2-cycle mix. I like them for small refills. The minor problem for me is that, here, I am always fighting temperature changes that swell and buckle the cans. I quit using the larger 5 gallon can as fueling anything with it was just too sloooow.
I used to have one of the US military style Jerry cans and then misplaced the spout. For years. After more than a couple of years, I gave it to a friend who had several, and about seven years later, I found the spout and gave it to him, too. Unlike @oosik's mine had a cork seal, and it was less than leak free. Even the metal spout had a tendency to weep fuel. If it was a knock-off, it was an old knock-off. It came with the property.
Personally, I think that the Wavian design works better it a couple of ways; the three bar handle makes it easy to carry two empties in one hand, or one full can, and the cam-lock lids and spouts seal tightly without tools.
Yes, they are way more expensive, and I bought mine on sale for more than half off, but they solved a couple of issues for me (leaking fuel, and bad gasoline). For me using them is like using any well designed tool, a pleasure.
And no, I am not wild about the CARB compatible spill resistant nozzles. (But I do spill less with them.)
All the best,
Peter
I am still lifting my Wavian cans, so for the moment I am ok. With any sort of shoulder injury, that would be gone in a flash.
I have only had my Wavian diesel and gas cans for a little over a decade. They still look and act brand new. I replaced the o-rings ("D" rings?) on the gas can a year ago. Something in the fuel caused the originals to start cracking. The diesel cans are fine.
I love that they are leakproof. As in totally leak proof. I can fill up the Wavian tanks at the gas station and drive them home in the car over a very twisty, winding road, and not a whiff of fuel leakage. The same was never true of the plastic Jerry cans, even the no-spill cans, in part because there is 2000' of elevation gain, which tended to force fuel out of the plastic cans as the fuel sloshed around in the cans on corners. I routinely open the Wavian fuel cans a month or three later, and they are still under pressure from the altitude change. I no longer have any trouble with gasoline going bad. For me, those reasons make the Wavians worth every penny. I just used 5 gallons of pre-Covid gasoline with no issues. (I don't use much gasoline on the ranch, and storage is one of my issues.)
I have a couple of the No-Spill plastic cans still that I reserve for refueling things with small fuel tanks, like my gasoline generator, and for 2-cycle mix. I like them for small refills. The minor problem for me is that, here, I am always fighting temperature changes that swell and buckle the cans. I quit using the larger 5 gallon can as fueling anything with it was just too sloooow.
I used to have one of the US military style Jerry cans and then misplaced the spout. For years. After more than a couple of years, I gave it to a friend who had several, and about seven years later, I found the spout and gave it to him, too. Unlike @oosik's mine had a cork seal, and it was less than leak free. Even the metal spout had a tendency to weep fuel. If it was a knock-off, it was an old knock-off. It came with the property.
Personally, I think that the Wavian design works better it a couple of ways; the three bar handle makes it easy to carry two empties in one hand, or one full can, and the cam-lock lids and spouts seal tightly without tools.
Yes, they are way more expensive, and I bought mine on sale for more than half off, but they solved a couple of issues for me (leaking fuel, and bad gasoline). For me using them is like using any well designed tool, a pleasure.
And no, I am not wild about the CARB compatible spill resistant nozzles. (But I do spill less with them.)
All the best,
Peter
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Wow! I have a couple of the Red ones for gasoline for the ATV's and mowers, but I bought from Lowe's a few years ago and thought the $30 price was high!
My biggest complaint about them is the filler neck on mine is at the 45 degrees and it will just barely allow you to pump in 5 gallons.
Look at the different pictures, some are at 45 some are on top, I would only want one with the filler opening on top knowing what I know now.
LittleBill21
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they changed the design, mine is straight from the top down, but to be honest im too impatient to wait for the foam to stop on the diesel anyway. and 4 gallons pretty much fills me up, so i don't need every inch of the tank
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LittleBill21, thanks for responding. The 5 gallon cans I use to fill the tractor tank have a spout with a ring that is apparently held out by a spring - and when 'out' nothing will pour. So, I can tip the cans to pour but the spout is somehow closed until that ring is pushed back. When I lean the cans forward I rest the ring against the lip of the tank opening and let the weight of the can force the ring back and then it begins to pour. I am not actually holding the weight of the gas can as that weight is on the ring which is on the tank opening. My task is just lifting the tank on to the hood of the tractor and then tipping it into the tank. So, I guess I have it a bit easier than some - I don't have to worry about the weight of the can as it pours in.
I don't know where I got those 'ring' spouts - I have looked but cannot find them. They work the same, however, as these:
Amazon.com: Blasoul Gas Can Spout Replacement Kit, No-Spill Gas Can Spout with Gasket and Stopper Bendable Oil Tube for 1-5 Gallon Oil Drums Water Jug Cap Diesel Fuel Can : Automotive
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Amazon.com: Eagle U2-51-S Red Galvanized Steel Type II Gas Safety Can with 7/8" Flex Spout, 5 gallon Capacity, 13.5" Height, 12.5" Diameter,Red/Yellow : Industrial & Scientific
Amazon.com: Eagle U2-51-S Red Galvanized Steel Type II Gas Safety Can with 7/8" Flex Spout, 5 gallon Capacity, 13.5" Height, 12.5" Diameter,Red/Yellow : Industrial & Scientific
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Buy these once, never spill gas again.
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I love the NoSpill cans myself and have a smaller 2.5 gal one for 2 cycle mix, 2 5gals for diesel and one 5 gal for gas. And I still have one 5 gal old style gas can that they can pry from my cold dead fingers. One of my NoSpill diesel cans empties in a flash and the other one takes forever. Not sure why the difference. But I drilled a small hole through the tabs behind the pushbutton, so i set it up on the hood of the tractor, point the spout in the tank, push the button and stick a 3/16" drill bit or rod through the holes to hold the button in. I stay nearby but I can do other things. Not something to do if there is risk of overfilling, but if you know it will take the full can, then no worries.
mrmikey
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For the prices they have listed on that site, they should come perpetually filled
.For me, I was never a fan of metal cans, don't know why, just never liked them'
I've got two 10L vented plastic gas cans I use for my ZT and one 20L gas that I vented with a tire valve and one 20L diesel can vented.
I have one flexible spout left and then I'm out, can't find them anywhere around here, I think mine was a Wedco, bubble packed and only paid around $5 for it, wish I had bought a dozen of them when I saw them years ago.............Mike
