Friend’s 9-year old daughter in surgery after stray dog attack.

   / Friend’s 9-year old daughter in surgery after stray dog attack.
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Re: Friend痴 9-year old daughter in surgery after stray dog attack.

A former co-worker raises English Bull Mastiffs. He always tells the story of arriving home from a grocery shopping trip to find half the local police force parked around his house. Neighbor boy about three or four years old, I forget, had got in trouble with his parents and fled thru the gate to Ed's back yard. One of Ed's huge male Mastiffs was in that back yard. The dog was staying within a few feet of the child and every time a parent or police officer tried to enter the yard the dog would growl and the hair would stand up on it's back. When Ed made into the yard the child was swinging on a swing set and the dog had positioned itself between the boy and the gate. When the dog would look at the boy it would wag it's tail. The only reason the police hadn't shot the dog was because it was staying so close to the child. My friend calmly called the dog to him and retrieved the child. The child would always try to get into Ed's back yard when he got in trouble.

Ten years ago he got $2500 a pup from people who would put the dogs with a young child. Said he had never had a complaint about one acting aggressive but had plenty of accounts of the dogs protecting children and families. The biggest complaint people had was the sheer volume of slobber the dogs spread over everything and the amount of dogfood they could eat. Those dogs were bred to protect people.

As a side note the University of Tennessee was also coming and taking blood and tissue samples from the dogs. From the papers Ed had the line had existed for more than fifty generations with none of the dogs having cancer.

RSKY
 
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The irony is amazing...

I'm a dog lover and the only dog I was ready to shoot myself was a Bull Mastiff (just the other year as a matter of fact). The dog was more than aggressive and if the dog would of gotten any closer to me, the gun was drawned and I was ready to shoot.

The OP is screaming about the horrors of Pit bulls, yet has some kind of strange love affair with his buddies Bull Mastiffs, either because they are so sought after and he can charge a premium price (and no cancer), or because the dog is bred for "protection only".

Note, other than the "pit bull", the Bull Mastiff is next on the list in most places of being banned.

Do I personaly think that either dog should be banned anywhere? No. However, the OP apparently feels that the Pit Bull should be banned. Go figure.

NOTE - When a dog is bred (properly) for dog fighting (such as a pit bull), the ONLY danger is if the dog is around other dogs, NOT when the dog is around people. I had to care for some dogs who were put down by the state due to dog fighting (off my personal property, held by the county for court processing). Dogs were fine around people, but... have another dog get in the same room, and the lights when out and no bets taken...

That said, no matter what size the dog, you always treat a dog with respect and if you don't know it, you ensure you don't put yourself in a bad situation.

At pet smart, the amount of parents who would just let their kids run up to a strange dog was amazing. What do you think can happen if a strange person who is the dogs height just goes running up the the dog and the dog may thing it's being attacked????
 
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^^^^
Thus proving that there is always an exception to every rule. Most dogs kept for pets aren't bred or trained to that level. My current dog apparently came from a litter of pups which are bred as service dogs. He flunked out, they know at 8 weeks which dogs can do it; yet he is still pretty laid back for a retriever breed.
 
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It's pretty simple, a lot of dog attack's are due to some stupid human that shouldn't own a dog to begin with.. I believe pit bulls are more capable of snapping than other breeds and when do, they cause a lot of damage, I think that breed dog is more apt to hurt someone more than some others, chow's and a few others can be just as bad and I would never have one in my home. That's just my opinion..

I have had three GSD's, one of them I wouldn't trust around my family, he was to protective of me so he went bye bye..
 
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My brother was a hard headed individual, and he owned a pit bull...at least he said it was a pit bull...and it got along well with him and his family. I came to visit, and he had it locked in the garage. He said it had bitten a couple guests in his home, he had been sued, and he simply had to keep it away from everyone but his family. We have owned Boston Terriers since, oh about 1955, and never have they bitten any one, but the males will fight another male at the drop of a hat...at least Mr. Muggs would. He got ganged up on by a German Shepard and an English sheep dog that came in the yard one day, and earned him 122 stitches.
 
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The OP is screaming about the horrors of Pit bulls, yet has some kind of strange love affair with his buddies Bull Mastiffs, either because they are so sought after and he can charge a premium price (and no cancer), or because the dog is bred for "protection only".

That's pretty harsh. The OP wrote about a dog entering some ones home and attacking their child. They shouldn't have said what the breed of dog is?

My Ex is a Vet. She told me that some people that own Pits are telling people they are different breeds now. The last one to come in to her hospital, the owner said her dog was a whippet, which is like a small greyhound. She just smiles and treats the dog. Lol.
 
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^^^^
I've seen my vet's tech go out to a vehicle to give a dog shots because he was too mean to bring inside. Why would anybody keep a dog like that?
In their defense though, at least his shot's are up to date.
 
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Re: Friend痴 9-year old daughter in surgery after stray dog attack.

That's pretty harsh. The OP wrote about a dog entering some ones home and attacking their child. They shouldn't have said what the breed of dog is?

My Ex is a Vet. She told me that some people that own Pits are telling people they are different breeds now. The last one to come in to her hospital, the owner said her dog was a whippet, which is like a small greyhound. She just smiles and treats the dog. Lol.

The op has multiple negative quotes per the pit bull breed in the this thread. It's apparent the OP does not like pits. I get it. Honestly, I kind of felt the same way until we ended up having to care for a female terrier who had pups. We ended up adopting her ourselves and she was the best dog I've ever owned (in her short 8 years with us, she NEVER EVER once snapped or showed her teeth to people). The reality is she was more scared of people than the people we're of her.

My only point is a Bull Mastiff IMO is more dangerous than a pit bull. My buddy has one, and he thinks its funny how the dog is protective over the house and land. Dog scares the living crap out of me and I refuse to even be on his property unless he is in my presense (NOT the dog I was going to shoot by the way).

Point being, when a dog is trained to hurt others, that dog IMO is a potential mennace to society.

I just love how they have to get "pit bull" into the mix of breed LOL

219 Dog Bite Fatality: Pit Bull-Mastiff Mix Kills 2-Year Old Boy in Newman, California | DogsBite Blog

Do a general search. No bull mastiffs don't kill as many people as pits do, but the reality is there is a lot less of the breed out there.

Fatal dog attack by bull mastiff on 13-year-old boy in New Jersey

Your ex should also be able to tell you that most people have no clue what a real pit bull looks like. Ignorance generally gives any dog with some physical characterics of the terrier breed makes the dog a "pit bull". No different than when I hear the news report about a "semi automatic handgun" being responsible for a shooting death/deaths, only to find out the gun in question is a revolver.
 
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"DogBites.org" is a political group which portrays itself as experts. They are about as unbiased as Fox News or the Huffington Post. Their goal is to ban pitbulls. As a previous poster already pointed out the dogs would just be called another breed.
What we should outlaw is people who think a dog has to be mean, no matter what the breed.
 
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Re: Friend痴 9-year old daughter in surgery after stray dog attack.

"DogBites.org" is a political group which portrays itself as experts. They are about as unbiased as Fox News or the Huffington Post. Their goal is to ban pitbulls. As a previous poster already pointed out the dogs would just be called another breed.
What we should outlaw is people who think a dog has to be mean, no matter what the breed.


YOU hit the nail on the head. In another post in another thread, it has also been shown that if a dog attack is newsworthy, the term "pit bull" should be used in the story and if the term "pit bull" couldn't be used, the news story wasn't worth running.

Sensationalism sells news. The news doesn't always want the truth, the news wants what will sell.

A Labrador retriever killing a child doesn't make the national news, but a pit bull killing a child does. It's what people want.

Sorry, this is no different than people killing people. Someone kills someone with knife, big deal no news. Someone uses a AR-15, it will make the headlines.

What people are ignorant of is if they want a certain breed to be illegal, ANY breed of dog then can become illegal. The question then becomes how does the state determine the actual breed other than someone saying "well, it's looks like a __________" ?
 

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