Front axle fluid level low

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Have never operated a tractor. In process of getting my first one.
So was going to use my new Mahindra 2126 for first time today and started checking everything out first. I found my front axle fluid level is low. I can see some fluid down in the hole but it is not at a level high enough to register on the little dipstick. Clearly it needs topped off.

But I just need to run it for probably less than half an hour today to move some light loads around a of couple hundred pounds. Would it be safe to do this light duty work for a short time with front axle low? Or should I wait until I can top it off?
 
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Why not top it off, will only take a couple minutes. It's 'new' as you say so why take a chance on issues. You will have to top it off anyway.
 
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Dont have the proper fluid for it right now. Will wait until I get some I guess.

Something a little bit weird is that I have now watched a number of videos on changing front axle fluid. They all show using "fill" level holes to get the correct amount of fluid in. Makes sense to me. But my manual only shows drain plugs to get the oil out and specifies using the fill port cap to check for proper level (just like an oil dipstick). Going by this method, its low.

Watching the videos, it almost seemed universal for front axles to have "fill" level holes. Have not seen a single on like mine that uses a dipstick in the fill cap.
 
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My kubota's all have (I own 2), not only fill ports but level ports as well....and...

You can add any GL4-5 hypoid oil to your front axle, brand not important. Any parts store and most gas stations will have pints of gear oil on the shelf.

That 'must use blah, blah specific brand oil is total BS.
 
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Dont have the proper fluid for it right now. Will wait until I get some I guess.

Something a little bit weird is that I have now watched a number of videos on changing front axle fluid. They all show using "fill" level holes to get the correct amount of fluid in. Makes sense to me. But my manual only shows drain plugs to get the oil out and specifies using the fill port cap to check for proper level (just like an oil dipstick). Going by this method, its low.

Watching the videos, it almost seemed universal for front axles to have "fill" level holes. Have not seen a single on like mine that uses a dipstick in the fill cap.

These modern compact tractor 4wd front axles are mostly similar designs copying a patent on the double bevel front drive whose "exclusive use" expired in the 1980s. It was novel at the time, and still very good

Some of the original double bevel gear drive front axles had dipsticks, some had level plugs, but most simply measured down through the fill port to ensure that one could see the horizontal axle was touching enough oil to be wet. In those, normal oil level was half way up the horizontal axle.
This oil depth is based on the way the front axle works. It is a splash oil system. There is no pump. Bearings are either submerged - like the outer oil wheel and bevel bearings, or they are lubed by splash like the front differential and pinions.

NOTE: Early front axle housings of this type were built without a vent, and some still are. The vent is important. Without it, the hot/cold pressure difference inside the front axles tended to cause oil leaks at the wheel bearing seal housings. Especially in hot weather.
It should vent in a way that doesn't allow water to get in.

As to what type of oil to use in the front axle housing, there is a long-standing debate between using a low viscosity trans/hydraulic fluid like John Deere HyGard.....or using a multiviscosity type SAE gear lube of type 70/80w-90. You will find some manuals that allow either type; others have a preference. The viscosity is measured differently between the two types of fluid. However, both the trans/hydraulic and the gear lube are close to the same viscosity as a 20 wt. motor oil.

If it were my new tractor I would simply check that there is oil visible to touch the internal horizontal axle, and if so use it. Half way up is optimum.

On a new tractor I like to change all the oils & filters quite soon - somewhere between 20 and 50 hours just to get out any manufacturing debris. There is always some. Then go to normal extended intervals.

Congratulations on your new tractor!
rScotty
 
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Excellent post Scotty. Because of the way I use my Kubota's, I run GL4-5 Hypoid oil in them as it provides better shock load capabilities than (in my case), Kubota SUDT. I'd like to see the 'Boss' make your post a 'sticky'.

..and some are externally vented and some just rely in the captive air space in the housing to compensate for the thermal expansion.
 
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Wow a lot of good info posted on this. Good to know.

Um, I went full bonehead on this one. I first checked engine oil which was fine and then checked the front axle and expected some kind of dark oil just like the engine oil. But the front axle fluid is almost clear. So I checked it again and still could not see it but then laid the dipstick on a paper towel and its right where is should be.

Also held the dipstick up to the outside of the axle in what would be its seated position and the bottom tip is just about at the center-line of the axle. So I am all good.
 
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I don't care for any of the 'fluids' that the OEM's use simply because they are all clear and very hard to see on a dipstick and that includes transmission-hydraulic oil. I use Chevron All Weather THC Synthetic in both my tractors (which are gear drive not hydrostatic) because the THC comes dyed orange and I can easily see it. Far as hypoid oil is concerned, hypoid oil will always come with a light amber color so you can see it as well.

Front axle case oil will never get dark simply because engine oil gets dark from the by-products of combustion and there is none of that present in your front axle or transmission for that matter. What does matter is your transmission as well as your front axle will eventually deplete the additive package in the oil from use and consequently, needs to be changed regularly.
 
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Excellent post Scotty. Because of the way I use my Kubota's, I run GL4-5 Hypoid oil in them as it provides better shock load capabilities than (in my case), Kubota SUDT. I'd like to see the 'Boss' make your post a 'sticky'.

..and some are externally vented and some just rely in the captive air space in the housing to compensate for the thermal expansion.
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I also use GL multiweight in the front axle and for the same reasons.
It's surprising how many tractors systems don't have much thought put into proper venting. But no problem.
Vents are easy to improve and ecologically sound - since it Saves our Seals...
rScotty
 

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