Front Axle Pumpkin Vent

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And some pictures of the axle pivot brackets. Again its a hardened sleeve in there. The axle pivot "slack" is adjusted by turning the bolt. The bolt pushes the washer against the axle housing creating tension. Never seen an axle like this before. Glad I took it apart.

As for the pivots themselves..... I'm thinking they need a grease fitting. Surely that needs to be greased more often than never! What do you guys think? I've never drilled hardened sleeves. Is it even going to work?
 

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As for the pivots themselves..... I'm thinking they need a grease fitting. Surely that needs to be greased more often than never! What do you guys think? I've never drilled hardened sleeves. Is it even going to work?

Great pictures! Thanks for going into such detail.

While my 755 does have a grease zerk for the axle pivot, I always understood the 4x00 pivots were somehow lubed with just the fluid in the axle. You should be able to determine any truth to that.
 
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No, unfortunately the axle pivots are just straight-up non-lubed. They may have been from the factory but its highly unlikely anyone owns one of these models with grease in it now. I'm gonna have to measure the clearances between the male and female ends. You have to wonder whether it just takes regular grease like yours does or something special. Or is it really supposed to be non-lubed?

Also, mine is missing at least one of the seals (#13 & #22) while the other one is in the process of dry-rotting. In fact, I have that missing seal in the garage. I found it on the ground this spring and have been wondering the whole time where it came from. Mystery solved. But if the pivots are sealed.... they must be intended to be lubed!

Hmmm.... to zerk or not to zerk? And should I replace the bushings and thrust washer (#2, #26, & #37)?
 

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JD755, on your 755 the axle pivots in a similar way... two bushings and a rod attached to the frame. On the 42/43/4400 the rod is the axle itself while the pivots are attached to the frame. And yet the 755 is intended to be greased, just like you said, while the 42/43/4400 is not.
 
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Just last year I happened to be discussing service procedures with the local JD dealer service manager. One thing he mentioned was it was not unusual for him to see x55 tractors with "loose" front axles because people do not grease that fitting, maybe because it is not easy to get to. Of course he also said he sees tractors that never get any owner maintenance. Anyway, I have always kept everything well greased and last time I changed front axle fluid I checked the axle for tightness while I had it off the ground. It felt very good with no problems.

That may be a good test for 42/43/4400 owners. Lift the frame so the axle hangs loose. Grab both sides from the front and try twisting it. Should be solid. However, it might not be as good a test as on x55 because the x55 "hangs" from the mount. The 42/43/4400 is more direct. May have to do with why there is no zerk. I don't really know why there is no pivot zerk on those, but sounds like a good question for a JD service manager. Do they see wear problems with those axles?
 
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On to the actual pumpkin vent....

The first picture is of the space I have in which to install it. I took that before I removed anything. I initially had planned to make the hole to the left of that indentation (the line in the middle of the pumpkin). Thats #1. But the bolt hole for the diff cover is right under that. Then I thought about the left of the indentation but closer to our point of view. Thats #2. But the ring gear is right under that and it will throw fluid directly at the hole as the axle spins. So #3 it was....

You can see in the next picture that I had just made a starter punch at spot #1 before it occurred to me what I was doing wrong.

I also tried not to drill all the way through for the threads so the vent barb had a natural bottoming out point. The tap refused to cooperate.... since its tapered it needed to keep going to make the actual 1/4"NPT threads.

The last picture shows the vent installed and what I mean about the bolt hole being in the way.
 

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And finally the vent itself....

Its a 1/4"NPT 3/8" barb screwed to a 1/4"NPT elbow. Since the spinning parts of the engine are right above the vent I want to get the vent hose out of the way the easiest way possible. Instead of bending the hose, we bend the hard parts.

I secured the hose with a clamp. Due to the difficulty of getting to these parts with anything but kid's hands, I don't want anything coming apart here.
 

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Do they see wear problems with those axles?
I really can't see how they don't. Or won't soon. Mine are worn. The seals are shot. There is no lube of any sort left. They're on the way to being destroyed. There is an awful lot of force being placed on those parts (think loaded bucket) without any grease. We wouldn't operate our loaders without ever greasing them. Ick.

I think I'm going to drill and tap for some grease fittings. Just tapping the bottom should work as they're more or less out of the way and protected by the frame. Need to buy some and a tap for that size thread. And I guess I better order the new seals as it'll be a few days before they get them in. [And here I really need my tractor tomorrow! Hello neighbor....]

Hmmm, I wonder if those aren't the same as the spindle seals on my BII. They look the same..... and they're both made for Dana/Spicer axles.....
 
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Looks like someone (possibly me) nailed a rock pretty good on the one side. The allen head opening was bent in. I had to cut out the bent part to get the wrench in. Looks like I'll be replacing these.

Dfkrug, what do you think? A square end that takes a wrench instead of a hex head that takes an allen key? Seems like it would be less likely to get hose-monkeyed to the point of making it impossible to remove.

I just got a chance to see your thread. Nice pix!

I had the same problem with my plugs....the hex sockets were destroyed.
New ones are cheap, but a pipe plug with square top would be better.
 
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Next the steering is removed. I didn't want to have to realign it after assembly so I'm removing one tie rod and then the whole steering assembly is going to stay attached to one portal end.

So does the PS cylinder get in the way of removing the diff cover?
 

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