Front mounted mower for a CUT - can it be done?

   / Front mounted mower for a CUT - can it be done? #1  

Mosey

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What would it take to use a ZTR mower deck, or modify a 3pt type mower, and mount it on the front of a CUT and use the mid PTO to power it? I can mow pretty fast with my 6' rear finish mower. I can't turn around as fast as a ZTR, but I can make the turns pretty fast since I have a hydrostat drive. The blade tip speed of my Landpride FDR2572 3pt mower is 18,328 fpm, which is very close to the Landpride LPZ72 ZTR, which is 18,800 fpm. But, I have to drive over the grass first, so I can't go as fast as a ZTR. I've heard of front mounted snow blowers that use the mid PTO, so why couldn't a finish mower or brush mower (rotary cutter) be mounted on the front in a similar fashion? It seems to me that the rear of the mower could be supported by the front tires of the CUT and the front of it could ride on caster wheels.
 
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Mount a hydraulic motor on the deck and run it off of the tractor's hydraulics or a hydraulic pump on the PTO--kinda like a Power Trac without the articulation and hydraulic drive.

SnowRidge
 
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I know I saw somewhere a mower that fit on the front of a skidsteer and had a hydraulic PTO. I also saw somewhere just the quick attach 3ph adapter for skidsteers. You could mount any 3ph attachment on your loader. Now if someone could pipe up as to where to get power....

I've had similar thoughts as wet as it's been. With the RFM, the tires mat down the grass before the mover gets to it.

Mark

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It can be done, and is in fact offered by some of the CUT factories in Europe, etc. See the following link:

http://www.iseki.co.jp/english/products/prod-05.html

I've been thinking about this very same thing for a while. I have a front mount PTO for my Iseki TS1610F and it should be adaptable to most any of the mower decks with gear boxes, with a rear facing shaft connection. I see many of these decks for sale on e-bay, with casters all around which would probably be required. Lifting arms extending to the rear arms of the tractor, pivoting at the center of the tractor off the frame, could be worked out to lift the deck...or a separate actuator I suppose.

Bill in CO
 
   / Front mounted mower for a CUT - can it be done?
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"It can be done, and is in fact offered by some of the CUT factories in Europe, etc. See the following link:
Bill in CO"

Thanks for the link Bill. That's exactly what I was thinking of! Where did you buy your Iseki? I've never heard of them before, but am definitley interested in learning more. Where are they made? I didn't see a dealer locator link on their web site. What is "PS" (is it the same as HP)?
 

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   / Front mounted mower for a CUT - can it be done? #6  
You could possibly convert a 3pt mower to a front mount. Get a hydraulic to PTO converter, that adapts the PTO shaft of the mower to a hydraulic motor. Then power it from your tractor's hydraulics, if they are powerful enough. If they aren't, then get a PTO hydraulic pump to run it.

Or you could just get a Power Trac and be done with it /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Everything is out front where it is easier to see and control.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You could possibly convert a 3pt mower to a front mount. Get a hydraulic to PTO converter, that adapts the PTO shaft of the mower to a hydraulic motor. Then power it from your tractor's hydraulics, if they are powerful enough. If they aren't, then get a PTO hydraulic pump to run it.

Or you could just get a Power Trac and be done with it Everything is out front where it is easier to see and control. )</font>

Hey. that's almost exactly what I said. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SnowRidge
 
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<font color="blue"> Hey. that's almost exactly what I said. </font>

Whoops! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I replied before reading the entire thread. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Anyway, I concur with your advice /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / Front mounted mower for a CUT - can it be done?
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MossRoad - "Or you could just get a Power Trac and be done with it"

I've put a lot of thought into a Power-Trac ever sense I read the post Compact Tractors are Designed All Wrong. At the time I stated "I just looked at the Power Trac web site and there are a lot of things I like about it, but I don't see it replacing my Boomer. Some implements work better on the back such as a moldboard plow or tiller or you would be driving on the plowed or tilled ground. Other implements will work well in the front at times, but will be better in the back at other times, such as a landscape rake when making the final pass before seeding grass or you would compact the soil after raking it. So, the ideal tractor would have to be bi-directional, like the New Holland TV140 discussed earlier. The small tires on the Power Trac and the low profile are great for mowing on slopes, but the lack of ground clearance would cause problems. I would bottom out in several areas. Also, the small diameter tires will not provide as much traction as large diameter tires."

So, I would still need a tractor and I can't afford both a Power Trac and a tractor (the ideal situation would be to have a good ZTR and a tractor, but I can't afford both of those either). I need to be able to plow, till, mow yard, mow brush and small trees, load heavy stuff into/remove heavy stuff from a pickup, landscape, push/remove snow, and pull/drag heavy stuff.

I can see where a Power Trac would be real nice in a lot of situations. The Power Trac would handle the mowing and a lot of the landscaping and snow removal. But, the small tires and lack of ground clearance would be a problem for some of the uneven terrain I get into. Those small tires would be a rough ride for me too, since my "yard" and fields are not all that smooth. I don't see how the Power Trac is going to work well for tilling, since the tiller needs to be on the back. Also, a tractor is much better for plowing, loading heavy stuff into/removing heavy stuff from a pickup using the FEL, and the grunt work of pulling/dragging heavy stuff. Also, I don't see any offset mowers for the Power Trac. I have a ditch and few other areas that I use my sickle bar mower to mow, or else I have to do it the hard way with a string trimmer.

Having to go to Virginia to buy one and only getting a 1 year parts only warranty is certainly a couple of strong deterrents!

I admit I may be just trying to do too much with a single machine. In retrospect, I probably should have just bought a good ZTR for the mowing and then an old used tractor for the heavy stuff, but I was trying to avoid buying anything used because I wanted something I could just put to work and not have to work on.
 
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Mosey,

There is at least one company that builds front mounted three point hitches for tractors. They are on the web somewhere - couldn't find them on google in 5 minutes though. Can't remember if a PTO was included, but you could rig something up off the Mid PTO (with gear reduction of course).

Question is, how much are you willing to pay to cut the grass faster? Off the top of my head, the front mount three point + PTO is gotta be $1,000 +. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Fun science project anyway.
 

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