fuel additives

[Soundguy]

Hey, I said "if I recall correctly". I knew it had mineral spirits of various types was was unsure of the amount. Thanks for the MSDS as I misplaced my original.

No problem. I just want to get the facts posted. Too many times urban myths get started from situations like that... like.. 'TEL' added to gas as a valve lubricant, vs a octane modifier.

I had not read the MSDS in some time, though i knew it had stoddards solvent in it as well.. a common ingredient for MS too. Though the latter 2 at a somewhat lower concentration.

Soundguy

 

[Sully2]

No problem. I just want to get the facts posted. Too many times urban myths get started from situations like that... like.. 'TEL' added to gas as a valve lubricant, vs a octane modifier.
I had not read the MSDS in some time, though i knew it had stoddards solvent in it as well.. a common ingredient for MS too. Though the latter 2 at a somewhat lower concentration.
Soundguy

I use Power Service or Howe's Lubricator...and dont care whats IN them...but I dont buy "anything" off the shelf and dump in my fuel. Not ATF..not mineral spirits...not grain alcohol...not anything! If it dont come in a bottle labeled for "X" purpose..I dont use it!

 

[Soundguy]

. If I recall correctly, .

Hey Madref.. Just to be clear. that post wasn't meant to be an attack.. just an info posting.

I miss the 'smiley' faces from the old style editor ( I know i can get them here.. if I wait the 3 minutes for the page to laod.. ).

thanks

Soundguy

 

[MadReferee]

Hey Madref.. Just to be clear. that post wasn't meant to be an attack.

I never treated it as one. It'll take a lot more than that to bruise my ego.

 

[patrick_g]

Stabil is a good idea for long term storage (months). Gel inhibitors for low temp operations is a good idea.

I don't think anyone mentioned Biobor or equivalent biocide. There are thingies that live in storage tanks and various vehicle and tractor fuel tanks. These organisms only need just a little bit of moisture to stay alive and eat diesel fuel. I don't begrudge them a hearty meal of diesel oil but they reproduce AND reproduce and can clog filters and literally gum up all those delicate parts in the injector pump that mechanics try to keep so clean. This problelm is not rare. Once you get it a very difficult time will be had in getting rid of it. It is also known by various names like black slime, black diesel death, and such. It also plagues disel powered boats.

If you use a good biocide according to label instructions you will probably never have a problem with it. If you have a mild case there is a "shock" dosage to be followed by a maint dose. Changing fuel filter(s) after the shock dose is a GOOD IDEA. If you haven't had the experience, count yourself fortunate. In hind sight I have never known anyone who would not have rather used the product as a preventitive instead of as a curative.

Since we ultimately do not know the history of the fuel we buy the best we can do is buy from a high volume dealer with clean tanks and hope for the best (and use a maint dose of biocide.) I have seen the difficulties ignoring this threat can cause. I saw it in others and I even got it in my Dodge truck when it was less than a year old but caught it early and treated for it.

I treat my overhead storage tank as it could be vulnerable and I treat my truck's tank. I have no clue where my truck "caught it" but it had to be from a regular filling station.

It is used to treat jet fuel. Planes can't just pull to the side and fuss with a filter.

Here is just one supplier, the one I have used the most but not the only one.

http://www.hammondscos.com/fuel/biobor_jf.html

This is not snake oil on the level of magnets clamped to your fuel line.

Pat

 

[Soundguy]

Power service was already mentioned.. many times. If you take the time to research theri products, you will find that they have a biocide.. and emergency '911 heat' anti gel.. a white bottle and silver bottle.. etc. all different purposes..

Soundguy

 

[hsdfcu]

problem with Power Service per Dyson Analysis is that bearing wear will go up with its use.

I would not use it past on his info.

 

[Soundguy]

I've never heard this before... how is bearing wear gonna go up?

Soundguy

 

[hsdfcu]

I've never heard this before... how is bearing wear gonna go up?

Soundguy

Go to BITOG it is there.

 

[schmism]

Premium diesel usually has a higher cetane rating than regular diesel. Sometimes it has additives. My distributor sells dyed premium diesel as his off-road offering. Cetane ratings for premium diesel are usually in the uipper 40's (47-49).

as he indicated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetane_number

<snip>Diesel engines run just fine with a CN between 45 to 50. There is no performance or emission advantage when the CN is raised past 50; after this point, the fuel's performance hits a plateau.
Diesel at the pump can be found in two CN ranges: 40-46 for regular diesel, and 45-50 for premium<snip>