Fuel Pump?

[Grimspyder]

Hello everyone, I hope you guys can help me figure out an issue I am having.
I need to know which fuel pump I need to buy.
(Very long story, Short)
I have a Ford 4500 Industrial Backhoe and I had hired a mobile diesel mechanic to get the tractor started ( I couldn't figure it out, and no longer had the time to work on it ). He tried to scam me out of thousands, and in the end disappeared with the original Fuel pump.
I am pretty sure the issue is the fuel pump, I had narrowed the issue down to that and tried to rebuild it. But I think I ordered the wrong kit ( according to a guy that rebuilds them online ) and probably messed something up also.
But since I do not have the fuel pump, I am not sure which pump I need to order. I have attached some pictures of the engine and the rebuild kit I ordered in the past. One issue with the rebuild kit was that the top cover set up was different than the original so I just used the original cover. I figured it was just a different model and did not affect function.
I was hoping someone could help me figure out which pump I need to order. I have tried looking up the engine numbers to see if I could locate the correct pump, but I have not been able to.
Oh' Ill need to order injectors also, that POS took of with those also. And those got rebuilt also.
Any help would absolutely amazing, I would like to get running before winter.
I appreciate any help.
Thanks.

 

[TractorTech]

Welcome to TBN!

Original numbers are 3233F390 or D6NN9A543G

Fuel Injection Pump fits Ford 515 531 535 540 545 532 4000 4600 515 531 532 535 540 545 D0NN9A543K D6NN9A543G fits CAV - Lucas 3833F390 3233F390

Fuel Injection Pump for Ford Backhoe Loader(s) 515, 531, 535, 540, 545, Baler(s) 532, Construction & Industrial(s) 515, 531, 532, 535, 540, 545. Replaces CAV - Lucas Mfg Number(s) 3233F390, 3833F390, Replaces Ford OEM Number(s) D6NN9A543G, D0NN9A543K.

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Injection Pump RPLS Ford/New Holland 83954934 Part# 1103-9004 | eBay

Ford/New Holland 83954934. REPLACES OEM: Ford/New Holland HF3233F661, Ford/New Holland E2NN9A543TB, Ford/New Holland E2NN9A543TAR, Ford/New Holland E2NN9A543TA, Ford/New Holland D6NN9A543FR, Ford/New Holland 83954934, Ford/New Holland 83947846.

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Original injector number D0NN9F593A

 

[Tinhack]

Can't help with the exact part but you need to ask for an Injector Pump and Injectors not a "fuel pump". You're probably looking at over a grand just for the CAV injector pump. The injectors are maybe $80/each. Then you'll probably need someone to install them. The pump should be retimed since you don't know what the guy did. He may have cranked the engine after pulling the old pump just to be an A-hole. You may need the gear too for the new pump.

You can buy a "cheap" knock-off pump for around $700 but you get what you pay for.

Edit: I see TractorTech got you the part numbers.

 

[Grimspyder]

Thanks for the replies

 

[TractorTech]

If the guy just pulled the pump out, the replacement pump only mates to the gear one way. Bolting the pump to the engine should match a timing mark, but most likely, you can match the flange of the replacement to the paint outline of the old pump.

 

[Grimspyder]

If the guy just pulled the pump out, the replacement pump only mates to the gear one way. Bolting the pump to the engine should match a timing mark, but most likely, you can match the flange of the replacement to the paint outline of the old pump.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Grimspyder]

Thanks for all the help. I was finally able to get it installed.
But' I am unable to get it to start. I made a post about it here:

Ford 4500 Industrial, Wont start

Hello, Hoping to get some assistance in starting my tractor. I recently put a new CAV pump and injectors on my backhoe which has been sitting for over 3years. I have been trying to start it for the past couple of days, and it doesn't want " To Go". It seems like its on the verge of starting, It...

www.tractorbynet.com

If you have any ideas, what my issue could be.
Again thanks for help!

 

[TractorTech]

Two things on you pictures. First, you blocked the side line from the pump to the filter head, why? Second, and it may not make a difference, is your 'return from the injectors' plumbed into the filter head should go to your tank from the #3 injector and that port on the head plugged. There is not line on this system for the leakoff line to be tied to the injection pump, unless you have a port (can't tell from your picture) on the back side of the injection pump on the top front. It it does have a port there, then that is plumbed to the injector leakoff line on the #1 injector.

If you are cranking the motor over with that much battery and your cables/connections are good and you are using a heat gun to warm the intake air, then you shouldn't need or use ether. If the engine is sound like you say from your compression tests, then you don't need ether. It sounds to me like you may have a timing problem. To start, have you varied the timing on the pump to if it makes a difference? Meaning, loosen the 3 bolts that hold it on the timing cover and move it, I believe clockwise, looking at the back of the cover?

Where did you buy your injectors? The injectors may be set wrong.

 

[bechtelar2]

Wow, what a nightmare! It sounds like that mechanic really pulled a fast one on you. For the fuel pump, you might want to check the engine model number and look for specific part numbers online. Forums for Ford 4500 owners can be super helpful too. Lots of folks have been through this!

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