GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics.

   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics. #161  
It's not to late to make him take it in on trade.
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics.
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#163  
Have thought about it, I did not see any there. I wonder how much of a price difference I should expect?
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics. #164  
How much is an ulcer worth?
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics.
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#165  
Yeah, tell me about it:laughing:!
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics. #166  
It's not to late to make him take it in on trade.

It might be too late for that. Remember, the dealer now has a significant parts and labor expense in the tractor. He is not going to let go of that easily.

Get out there with the rep and go over ever aspect of the tractor with him. Don't accept it back until it is repaired to your satisfaction, or to the original specifications.

The dealer may not get very much business from the insurance company, but if you write to the insurance company and say you believe there was significant fraud in the repair of your tractor, (you are not there yet, but the hocus pocus with the new loader and the extra cylinders is heading right down that path) the insurance company will investigate that.
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics. #167  
It might be too late for that. Remember, the dealer now has a significant parts and labor expense in the tractor.

That is irrelevant, If he had traded it in initially, the dealer would still have had to fix it, to sell it.

Sure, it would have been better to trade it before, because the dealer would have saved the expense of changing the frame, and replacing the hood, but it is not too late to make a deal.
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics. #168  
Like i had said before with my previous post... not to pour salt in the wound..... :eek:

In my opinion... New parts are all fine and good, but if it was mine i would always wonder if it was indeed repaired correctly with new parts and properly. You paid good money for this amazing tractor, and should deserve to have a unit that is not plagued with possible issues down the road from a rebuild.

Like Ray said, trade her, or...


Stand your ground, and do not release payment until you are happy.....

my 2 cents...
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics. #169  
It's not to late to make him take it in on trade.

Wacky, this goes back to the initial posts in your thread where Ray suggested trading it, and I agreed...I think at that point Ray and I could both see where this was heading, and unfortunately, this has turned out to be the case. I would, at this point, begin to leverage the events at the dealer with the AGCO rep. In other words, put the idea out there to him and see what kind of reaction you get regarding trading for a new unit. The rep has some leeway in granting vouchers, discounts, etc. in situations that involve questionable issues such as this. I once had some issues with a new Ford purchased for my wife (way too much time in the shop multiple times for the same warrantable issue)...I kept biting the ankles of the regional rep (specifically noting that I had no confidence in a "New" vehicle that had several thousand dollars in repair) and Ford purchased the vehicle back from me at a slightly depreciated value (it was financed through Ford Credit) and gave me a $4,000 Ford voucher that could be applied to the Ford (or Lincoln/Mercury) of my choice at the dealer of my choosing. The rep specifically told me; "Don't mention the voucher during the negotiating phase, get your best deal and present the voucher to the finance department when the deal has been finalized". Lean on the rep HARD! It's time to get really aggressive (not physically) with AGCO on this...I think you are past receiving a favorable outcome with this particular dealer, and it may be time to circumvent the dealer altogether.
 
   / GC parking brake popped out! Damage pics. #170  
I don't think anyone is surprised with the possibility of how this may turn out. While some mentioned earlier that you should consider trading it in for a new tractor it did not seem like something you were willing / able to consider based on a comment you made regarding not having the money to get yourself out of it.

At the end of the day asking for an estimate on the difference between the depreciated value of your tractor and a new one is good advice, if for no other reason than to put the issue to rest. It may be something you decide is achievable or, for whatever reason, is not. At least then you will be able to focus your energy on seeing this through.

Like Ray, having worked in my father's auto body repair shop while living at home, I would have likely opted to complete the repairs myself. I understand you haven't the experience to do something like that and I disagree that you can never bring something back to its original state. What is required is the expertise and diligence to do it.

My opinion, I think that is what is lacking here. As per my previous post, the apparent alignment issues you described should have easily been remedied by an experienced technician. Experience, desire, pride in workmansip and work ethic seem lacking in this case. Prior to meeting with the dealer, meet with your agent and express your concerns with the state of the tractor during your first visit and what you strongly believe are issues that will make the possibility of ever being satisfied / confident that the tractor has been restored to its original state impossible.

If the dealer has any kind of sand, he will ackowledge whether his staff have the experience and skill to make the necessary reparations. At the very least having you acknowledge your concern with both the dealer and rep is important.
 

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