gear vs. hydro for pulling tiller

eee · Dec 19, 2004

Thats all folks...............

Dargo · Dec 19, 2004

Yup, last word from me. I personally like both. I just picked what I thought would work best for me for what I need. I'm fairly adaptable, but I see no particular problems with gears; only a few advantages for hydro. But...you do pay more for those advantages as you mentioned. My grandfather said that he would never go with a car with an automatic transmission. He said that standard shift works just fine, and they have worked fine for decades. He was so hard headed about his belief in transmissions that it wasn't until he had his left knee replaced that he finally said that he would reluctantly go with a "junk" automatic transmission car. Since he is in his upper 90's, he figured that even a junk automatic transmission would likely last him long enough. I'm not quite that stuck in my ways. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif As the consensus agrees, a guy should buy what they like; there isn't really a "wrong" choice here.

BillyP · Dec 19, 2004

What kind of HP lose can I expect with a hydro at the pto. 

From everything I've read, from the manufacturers, you'll lose anywhere from 5 to 10% net PTO HP going from gear to hydro.

johnday · Dec 19, 2004

Moon; Thanks, I'm cooking as I speak, and I used white onions. Man, that ham smells good too. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

keeney · Dec 19, 2004

The load on the transmission probably also depends on the tiller rotation direction. I don't know very much about tillers, but I do knwo that some spin forward and some spin the other way.

I would assume that the reverse-spinning type need to be pulled somewhat.

My experience using a trencher on a hydro machine is that its tempting to pull to much with the transmission and not just let the cutting action of the implement do the work. Maybe this is the same on a tiller?

With a gear tractor, assuming one with a low enough gera, it may be easier to set the speed appropriately and not be constantly pushing it faster than the process can efficiently go.

- Rick

JerryG · Dec 19, 2004

Nope..you cannot go from reverse to forward on a geared tractor as fast as you can a hydro.
That's funny, because I think that I can move my power shuttle lever with my hand as fast as you can move you floor control with your foot. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tractors4u · Dec 19, 2004

( That's funny, because I think that I can move my power shuttle lever with my hand as fast as you can move you floor control with your foot. )

Ditto that Jerry. On my JD 4310 I can set the speed at which my shuttle shift shifts. I usually have it set on the slow shift though. I can be in reverse, through the lever just before I need the shift, turn the steering wheel while it is shifting. IN that one second or less it takes to shift, I have made a full lock to lock turn and it is shifting when I need it to. Kind of like a predictive shift.

computer_guy · Dec 19, 2004

I have operated both and like them equally... but my favorite means of propulsion for the plow is the little lady.
I have attached a picture of the ol' girl in action.
She is smooth and her pullin power is really improved since her hysterectomy. Just two cents from a proud dirt worker.

Dargo · Dec 19, 2004

keeney, Cruise control. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Moon · Dec 19, 2004

I guess that is what my wife uses also (white onions) I don't know the diff in white vs yellow.
I know two of my wife's recipies, one is grilled cheese, the other is the one you asked for. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
They are the perfect sidedish for ham.
I hope you like them!

Moon of Ohio