Generator in a outside building and powering the panel...

   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #71  
By "pole" I meant where ever the meter base is. Apparently it must be a regional term? The Reliance transfer panel is placed after the utility meter and prior to the home service panel. The remote panel in the barn/shed needs the neutrals floating on an isolated bar. The ground on the ground bar and a couple of ground rods driven. Not an insurmountable task.
 
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#72  
By "pole" I meant where ever the meter base is. Apparently it must be a regional term? The Reliance transfer panel is placed after the utility meter and prior to the home service panel. The remote panel in the barn/shed needs the neutrals floating on an isolated bar. The ground on the ground bar and a couple of ground rods driven. Not an insurmountable task.
The current main panel will also need all its grounds and neutrals separated and the neutral-ground bond disconnected if it ends up sitting downstream of the reliance panel. As you said, not an insurmountable task, but depending on how its setup it could take an hour or two in a full 40 space panel.

Aaron Z
 
   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #73  
A transfer panel is overcomplicating things greatly. A two pole breaker with a $50.00 interlock kit in the main panel is all that is required for the occasional use of a small generator in a power outage situation. Its safe. It meets code. Its idiot resistant.
 
   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #74  
A transfer panel is overcomplicating things greatly. A two pole breaker with a $50.00 interlock kit in the main panel is all that is required for the occasional use of a small generator in a power outage situation. Its safe. It meets code. Its idiot resistant.


Agreed.Eazy peazy.

I got mine from a local distributer for the same company you linked to earlier.
 

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   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #75  
Agreed.Eazy peazy.

I got mine from a local distributer for the same company you linked to earlier.

So it looks like we have a winner: The original plan with one of these interlock plates installed:cool2:
 
   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #76  
Howdy,
As said before, if you only add 2 hots in the conduit, you will not have proper wiring for energizing the sub-panel at the barn while on generator. It would not be independent. Yes, it functions fine during normal use, but while the interlock is switched, your sub-panel will then be out of code for electricity flow.

Answer, get the proper interlock for your panel, pull all proper wires thru the conduit, stop with the share neutral+ground.
 
   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #77  
Howdy,
As said before, if you only add 2 hots in the conduit, you will not have proper wiring for energizing the sub-panel at the barn while on generator. It would not be independent. Yes, it functions fine during normal use, but while the interlock is switched, your sub-panel will then be out of code for electricity flow.

Answer, get the proper interlock for your panel, pull all proper wires thru the conduit, stop with the share neutral+ground.

Can you site the code please? Thank you.
 
   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #78  
What we have going on here is the layman's standards for electrical equipment and the NEC requirement's endorsed and used by professionals in the electrical field.
The pro understands the electrical theory why those silly rules are written and enforced by law. The layman figures if the equipment works without immediately exploding into a sparking ball of flames that the installation is satisfactory.
 
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What we have going on here is the layman's standards for electrical equipment and the NEC requirement's endorsed and used by professionals in the electrical field.
The pro understands the electrical theory why those silly rules are written and enforced by law. The layman figures if the equipment works without immediately exploding into a sparking ball of flames that the installation is satisfactory.
So far, you have yet to show the section of code that would say that it cant be done and some of what you have said appears to be incorrect per the NEC.
Since I will NOT be switching the neutral and I will be un-bonding the neutral from the ground at the generator, the generator will NOT count as a separately derived system because the neutral and ground will always be connected (per: 1, 2). As such, the "no separately derived circuits sharing conduits" rule would not apply and I can use the same conduit.
Even if I were however, it appears that NEC section 702.9 would expressly permit them sharing the same conduit. It reads:
https://www.inkling.com/read/nfpa-national-electrical-code-handbook-2008/chapter-7/ch07-reader-15 or [url said:
http://freenec.com/T581.html]702.9[/url] Wiring Optional Standby Systems. The optional standby system wiring shall be permitted to occupy the same raceways, cables, boxes, and cabinets with other general wiring.

The sharing a neutral question, I have not seen spelled out anywhere and would probbaly depend on the inspector.
Electrically, as long as the neutral is large enough to carry the full output of the generator, it should never be a danger.

Aaron Z
 
   / Generator in a outside building and powering the panel... #80  
What we have going on here is the layman's standards for electrical equipment and the NEC requirement's endorsed and used by professionals in the electrical field.
The pro understands the electrical theory why those silly rules are written and enforced by law. The layman figures if the equipment works without immediately exploding into a sparking ball of flames that the installation is satisfactory.

What we have going on is here is you being pouty because everyone doesn't agree with your prescribed method of doing it.

If you were acting professionally you would site where it is prohibited to do it the way he asked about.
 

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