generator to home panel connection

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larryccf

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don't know how many are aware, but there's an approved alternative to the transfer switch boxes (that run anywhere from $300 - $700) called "generalor interlock kits".

you will have to check with your local building inspector's office, but they're idiot proof fail safe - you are mechanically prevented from turning on the generator circuit if the main breaker is in the "ON" position. I actually liked the idea enough that I built my own (I was too cheap to pay for the custom one my panel box would have required. I did submit it to the electrical inspector for approval, mainly for insurance coverage purposes. I believe they start around $149 for the more common panel boxes - unfortunately mine was one of those - they'd had to modify an existing plate and wanted something like $200 for mine.

main reason I prefer the interlock kit idea over a transfer switch box, it allows me to simply feed the entire panel box w/240V and use the existing breakers - in an outage we're careful in terms of what we turn on, but this way, no matter what room we walk into, we've got lights if we need - no need to run an extension cord for the wife's hair dryer, etc. And no need for an electrician to install the transfer switch box, which just adds to the cost

basically i feed the panel box thru an electric dryer receptacle installed just below the panel box connected to a 60 amp dbl brkr, so when the interlock kit is moved to allow that breaker to thrown to the "on" postion, it feeds both 110v legs of the box


link to generator interlock kit: Generator InterLock Kit

Generatorinterlockkit.jpg



and my home made one - the red instruction plate i simply made myself in microsoft word, and used laminating plastic to place it on the top sliding plate. Figuring out the steps necessary in microsoft to get text inside a "frame" took me almost as long to fabricate the two plates (i'm maybe half notch above fred flintstone level in computers)

i used .090" 6061 alum with bellvue washers over nylon washers for the tension lock between the two plates - but's it's actually the main breaker that keeps the lock out plate from sliding down and releasing the gen breaker - as long as the main breaker is up in the "on" position, the lockout plate can't slide down - the tension washers are basically to keep the wgt of the sliding plate from putting any force on the main breaker

homemadegeneratorinterlockpix.jpg
 
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Ive looked at those interlock kits and was considering one. Certinally a convient way to hook up a gen. Several of the panel manufacturers make a "Backfeed" kit that does the same thing, for a similar price.

I tried emailing the Company to confirm if they were CSA approved and usable in my area. They never got back to me:mad: Local Hydro, knows nothing about them.

Price is high, for what it is, but you need to remember that theres alot of costs in there for getting it approved.


Too late for you , but another option is the GenerLink.com - About GenerLink - The easy way to connect a home generator Some hydro companies actually sell them and will bill you for it monthly. Its a really easy install, just goes between your meter and its base. Installs in 5 mins.:eek: more expensive than your option but significantly cheaper than a traditional transfer switch when installation is considered
 
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just noticed you're in NS - can i ask where?
we almost moved there - had a contract on a motel in Yarmouth and seller backed out

i've still got a camp in Maxwellton (inland from Meteghan)
 
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60 amp breaker feeding a 30 amp dryer outlet...???:confused:
 
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60 amp breaker feeding a 30 amp dryer outlet...???:confused:

??? uhh, no, a 60 amp receptacle feeding to a 60 amp breaker - nothing feeds to that receptacle from the panel, nor can it, when the main breaker is in the "ON" position as the main breaker can't be moved to "ON" unless the gen breaker has been moved to "OFF" position

generator has a 50 amp breaker controling the circuit as it feeds the receptacle which is backfeeding into the panel box

and before you ask, i used that dryer receptacle and that dbl breaker as those were already here, installed, and were freed up when i converted to natural gas clothes dryer
 
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AT&T, Verizon, Quest and all of the other telcos have without exaggeration well over a million of these in use in virtually every community across the country for all their equipment (anything fed by fiber optics) that needs generator backup when ever there is a commercial power failure.

Their bigger equipment at cell sites and other larger installations have auto-transfer switches where there are generators on site, but for almost all of the 30-100 amp locations, they all have manual transfer switches.
 
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I've just retired from the local electrical utility where I worked for 35 years...19 years as a Lineman in construction/maintenance and 16 years as a District Operator. I would never give my blessing to such a device. It is a bad design. Period. Nothing prevents it from being disabled simply by the panel covers being removed. Another thing, nothing guarantees the main breaker is actually open when the lever is flipped to the off position. You wouldn't believe the number of people who can't even reset a breaker! How would you expect them to be able to actually tell when there is a problem with one? LOTS of people out there are best described as being Stuck On Stupid. Just look at some of the examples of them that people have posted on this Forum.
 
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Mace :D Sooo right.. Nothing takes the place of a "REAL" transfer switch
 
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One of the main reasons for a transfer switch is to prevent electricity from being fed back into the serving utility's grid. You could KILL someone. Using a non UL approved device-(home made). BAD IDEA!
A breaker interlock device may by less expensive but NOTHING works as well as a transfer switch.
 
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A few hundred dollars extra for an approved gen panel is far less expensive than hospital costs from electrocution or home replacement costs from insurance claim.

Buy once, cry once.
 

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