Get off the seat---engine stops

[RalphVa]

What I do on my 4010 is use a tension strap to secure the back of the seat. Run the tension strap across the seat back from both sides of the ROPS. I use my power takeoff on the chipper/shredder A LOT in the winter this way.

My 4010 also has a button you can pull up with the seat folded 90 degrees forward, but it was designed (by some silly lawyers; no doubt) not to work on the 4010. I used a jumper wire for a while to make this button work, but somehow the jumper wire ceased to work; so, I went back to using the tension strap.

You should have it in neutral with the parking brake on whether it requires it or not.

Ralph

 

[retiredmgn]

What I do on my 4010 is use a tension strap to secure the back of the seat. Run the tension strap across the seat back from both sides of the ROPS. I use my power takeoff on the chipper/shredder A LOT in the winter this way.

I used a jumper wire for a while to make this button work, but somehow the jumper wire ceased to work; so, I went back to using the tension strap.

Ralph

Ralph, I'm with you on this one. I have an additional comment on the tension strap. I was not able to apply enough pressure just with the tension strap so I added a come-along wrapped underneath the tractor. I was then able to apply enough pressure to actually bend the metal support of the seat entirely around the transmission housing. Believe me, every wire in that general vicinity was making contact then. The seat is not as comfortable now but that's beside the point. The PTO is running - full time.
The lights are doing strange things but as soon as I can locate the fuse box I'll rip it out and solve that problem.
Hope this helps.

 

[greg_g]

I added a come-along wrapped underneath the the tractor. I was then able to apply enough pressure to actually bend the metal support of the seat entirely around the transmission housing. Believe me, every wire in that general vicinity was making contact then. The seat is not as comfortable now but that's beside the point. The PTO is running - full time.
The lights are doing strange things but as soon as I can locate the fuse box I'll rip it out and solve that problem.

Rednecks in Maine now !! What's this world comin' to ?!?

//greg//

 

[Glen Watkins]

Tension straps or jumper wires or come a longs? Really? It is a very simple procedure to have the PTO run while off the seat.

 

[RoyJackson]

Tension straps or jumper wires or come a longs? Really? It is a very simple procedure to have the PTO run while off the seat.

Don't start this "doing it right" crap!!!!

 

[Glen Watkins]

:laughing:

 

[whbrittain]

Rednecks in Maine now !! What's this world comin' to ?!?

//greg//

I think we were rednecks first ;-) Originally a part of Massachusetts we were on of the original 13 colonies. Besides. I have live in Kentucky. Our rednecks are, shall we say, more rednecky! BTW I have also lived in Alabama. They win,.... no contest.

 

[kevinwak]

Danny---you nailed it.

In my defense I have to explain. Last week we moved, lock stock and barrel plus a brand new never-been-fired-up DR PTO-powered wood chipper. We had help packing and moving. Meaning---we don't know where a lot of stuff ended up, including my John Deere owner's manuals.

I followed the instructions that you so helpfully provided, and that worked a treat. I reduced a brush pile to about ten gallons of mulch-sized chips.

Boiled down, you have to set the parking brake, shift to Neutral, select Rear PTO, engage the PTO, and then you can climb down out of the seat.

Thanks a million,

Art

Full 2520 is available to read on the JD website.

 

[mjncad]

Or you could add a toggle switch to bypass the lawyer switch at will, which is what I did so I could use my 3PH sprayer's hose reel.

https://picasaweb.google.com/110106108324823291002/HydraulicsUpgrades#5382690929653332466

The wiring diagram of how I did it is attached.

Please note...Making modifications such as this and using the PTO with the safety interlocks disabled is entirely your decision. I take no responsibility for any machine and/or property damage, nor do I take responsibility for any injuries or death that may result.

 

[defed]

there are alot of times that the seat switch is a pain. i often like to stand when i brush hog tall grass so i can watch for objects more easily...with the seat switch it dies when in gear and/or pto engaged when i do this.

sometimes i need to troubleshoot an implement, front or rear, need the pto on for this. rear, yea, there is a work around, but what about when i need to check the auger operation on my front blower?

99% of the time, the seat switch is fine, but there are times when it just doesn't work.

 

[RoyJackson]

there are alot of times that the seat switch is a pain. i often like to stand when i brush hog tall grass so i can watch for objects more easily...with the seat switch it dies when in gear and/or pto engaged when i do this.

sometimes i need to troubleshoot an implement, front or rear, need the pto on for this. rear, yea, there is a work around, but what about when i need to check the auger operation on my front blower?

99% of the time, the seat switch is fine, but there are times when it just doesn't work.

Standing up, eh? That's when you'll fall off and have most need for that seat switch!
I'm pretty sure you know I mow with the loader installed and the bucket lip about 10" (give or take) off the ground...that's my "cow catcher".
And, when you're troubeshooting a running implement...maybe a helper would be handy. I don't know the percentage, but I'll guess it's over 50% of accidents are folks working alone...and someone goes looking for them when they don't come home when expected.
Just my 2 cents...

 

[defed]

the good thing is, if i need to stand up to watch for things, i'm usually going pretty slow anyway in case i actually hit something.

sure, it is 'unsafe'...but so is just about anything when you are careless (like crossing the street). i always say...i've never gotten hurt doing something smart! i also say...you can't protect idiots from their own stupidity, no matter how many safety devices you engineer into something. safety devices can help protect you from your stupidity (and carelessness)...they also make you 'dependent' on them which can cause you to do dumb things thinking the safety device will protect you. i just stay as alert as possible when working this way.

ok, enough of my anti-safety rants.

 

[whbrittain]

Another time I "dislike" the safety switch is when using the front end loader. When I lean over to one side or the other to see the edge of the bucket the engine dies. On the other hand I know one person who was killed and another who lost a leg because they fell off of their tractor.

It's one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't. As much as I hate the **** lawyer switch I will not disable it. In a past life (before CUT) I had a JD 320 lawnmower and I disabled that switch with a piece of foam as soon as I bought it. But over 2000 lbs and nasty things often hanging off of a 3ph give me pause.

 

[defed]

Another time I "dislike" the safety switch is when using the front end loader. When I lean over to one side or the other to see the edge of the bucket the engine dies.

i know what you mean, happens to me too...probably worse for me since i only weigh 150lbs...hard enough to keep it engaged while sitting in it properly, let alone leaning.

 

[RoyJackson]

i know what you mean, happens to me too...probably worse for me since i only weigh 150lbs...hard enough to keep it engaged while sitting in it properly, let alone leaning.

Drink more beer!!!
Worked for me!

 

[retiredmgn]

i know what you mean, happens to me too...probably worse for me since i only weigh 150lbs...hard enough to keep it engaged while sitting in it properly, let alone leaning.

When I disconnected the seat switch on the JD mower I told wifey it was because she didn't weigh enough to keep the machine running.

...Oh come on, a little white lie never hurt.

 

[sunnyside360]

When I got my new 2010 4320 tractor last year the seat switch did not work. Didn't pay much attention to it until a few months later when I flipped the seat up and bingo there was a jumper across the contacts of the unplugged connector. Pulled the jumper and plugged the two connectors and seat switch worked as designed ever since. The tractor only had 0.8 hrs on the meter when I first got it. Suspect either the dealer or Deere manuf installed the jumper to troubleshoot a problem and forgot to pull it. For my use I think it is best to leave the jumper off.

 

[PioneerMan]

I got a good scare when I was doing about 10 mph down the road and fumbled in my pocket for something and nearly got gut punched by the wheel. The tires locking up hard at that speed left a pretty good divot in my gravel drive to...

 

[defed]

when i was test driving my 4300, i thought it had a problem because the engine kept wanting to cut out, but then it would recover. i kept thinking WHAT is wrong with this thing?! then i realized that it only happened when i hit a bump, and my scrawny 150lbs was bouncing off the seat. this was solved by adjusting the tension in the seat.