Getting an L3800 HST shop manual from Messicks

[Rail Dawg]

The only available L3800 shop manual from Messicks is an L3800 DT. I have an HST... Where can I go to get the L3800 HST manual or will the DT one suffice?

Thanks!

 

[Gordon Gould]

Boy that is a bummer. At the price they are I would want the right one.
I inquired to Messicks about an L3010 DT shop manual and never heard back from them so I assumed they don't have that one either.

 

[Bluegill2]

Did you call them?

 

[Rail Dawg]

I haven't called yet. I used their "Contact Us" link on their home page.

What does "DT" mean on a Kubota?

 

[Bluegill2]

I haven't called yet. I used their "Contact Us" link on their home page.

What does "DT" mean on a Kubota?

Dual Traction, as far as I know.

I've had better luck calling them to find stuff.

 

[Sammy3700]

I think it means direct transmission. The DT tractors have 4 forward in high and 4 in low, 4 reverse gears. I have not looked for a manual yet. If you find one please post where and how much. I have a L3700SU HST which is the same running gear you have I think.

 

[Dewbee]

I think it means direct transmission. The DT tractors have 4 forward in high and 4 in low, 4 reverse gears. I have not looked for a manual yet. If you find one please post where and how much. I have a L3700SU HST which is the same running gear you have I think.

Yup your right.

 

[sixdogs]

Two things....I have seen DT on Kubotas and all with that designation were 4WD so I would presume it's for front wheel drive models. Maybe Dual Traction?

On shop manuals for Kubota, I have been buying them for 25 years in anticipation of a problem that never came. The Kubotas just kept on going and never needed a major repair.

 

[Dewbee]

Two things....I have seen DT on Kubotas and all with that designation were 4WD so I would presume it's for front wheel drive models. Maybe Dual Traction?

On shop manuals for Kubota, I have been buying them for 25 years in anticipation of a problem that never came. The Kubotas just kept on going and never needed a major repair.

L3200DT means its a manual trans
L3200HST means hydro trans
True story. Has nothing to do with 4wd.

 

[Bluegill2]

A 4wd L3800 gear drive is L3800DT

A 2wd L3800 gear drive is L3800F

I don't really know what DT stands for, but it's only on the 4wd gear drive.

 

[ljohnson778]

DT - Dual Traction, ie. 4 wheel drive... Ok, more appropriately front wheel assist.


Kubota designations:

BX Series

V = Loader Valve
T = Turf Tires
R = R4 Industrial Tires
LB-T = Loader Backhoe w/Turf Tires
LB-R = Loader Backhoe w/R4 Tires

B Series

E = Two Wheel Drive DT = Dual Traction 4wd
HSE = Hydrostatic Transmission, 2wd
HSD or HSD-1 = Hydrostatic Transmission, 4wd
HSDB = Same as Hydrostatic 4wd, but includes Bi-Speed turn
HSD-T = Hydrostatic Transmission, 4wd, Tow Tractor (Airlines)
TL = Tractor, Loader
TLB = Tractor, Loader, Backhoe

L Series

DTC = Dual Traction, 4wd, Two stage clutch, Live continuous Running PTO (L235/L275) DTC = Dual Traction, 4wd, Integral Factory Cab (L3600/L4200) DTN
DTS = Dual Traction, 4wd, Power Steering
DTSC = Dual Traction, 4wd, Power Steering, Two stage clutch, Live continuous Running PTO (L235/L275)
DTN = Dual Traction 4wd, Narrow Specialty Tractor DT-W = Dual Traction 4wd, (W) Wet Clutch = EVER CLUTCH
F = Two Wheel Drive
FS = 2wd, Power Steering
FC = 2wd, Live-continuous running PTO
FSC = 2wd, Live-continuous running PTO, Power Steering
FST = Fully Synchronized (Main) Transmission
GST = Glide Shift Transmission
GSTCA = Glide Shift Transmission, 4wd, Factory Cab, "A” is for Air Ventilation Kit (L3600/L4200)
GSTC = Glide Shift Transmission with Integrated Factory Cab
HC = High Clearance (L245HC only)
HF = Hydraulic Shuttle, 2wd
HDT-W = Hydraulic Shuttle, Dual Traction 4wd, (W) Wet Clutch = EVER CLUTCH HDT = Hydraulic Shuttle, Dual traction
HSTC = Hydrostatic "Feather Step” Transmission with Integrated Factory Cab MF = Mechanical Shuttle, 2wd
MDT = Mechanical Shuttle, Dual Traction
SS = Shuttle Shift
T = Tow Tractor
W = Wide tread for Row Crop applications. (i.e., Tobacco)
TL = Tractor, Loader
TLB = Tractor, Loader, Backhoe
DT = Dual Traction 4wd
DTC = Dual Traction 4wd, Cab Model
DTCCS = Dual Traction 4wd, Cab with Creep Speed

M Series

DT-1 = Dual Traction 4wd, ROPS model with IC/Shuttle Transmission (M7580/M9580)
DTL = Dual Traction 4wd, Low Profile (for orchards)
DTM = Dual Traction 4wd, MUDDER (for specialty, row crop and vegetable)
DTN = Dual Traction 4wd, Narrow (for vineyard/orchard tractor)
DTN-B = Dual Traction 4wd, Narrow wheel tread with Bi-Speed Turn
F = Two Wheel Drive
F-1 = (-1) = Larger two pump hydraulic system
FC = Two Wheel Drive Cab Model
F-CS = Two wheel drive with Creep Speed (Ag. tires or as Turf Special)
HC = High Clearance (2wd M7950 only)
HD = Hydraulic Shuttle, 4wd
HDC = Hydraulic Shuttle, 4wd, Cab
HDCCS = Hydraulic Shuttle, 4wd, Cab, Creep Speed
L = Low Profile
ML = Mechanical shuttle, Low profile
MDT = Mechanical shuttle, Dual traction 4wd
MDTL = Mechanical shuttle, Dual traction 4wd, Low profile
MF = Mechanical shuttle, Two wheel drive
OC = Orchard model
S = Synchro-Shuttle, 2wd
SD = Synchro-shuttle, 4wd
SCS = Synchro-Shuttle, 2wd, Creep Speed
SDN-B = Synchro-Shuttle, 4wd, Narrow with Bi-Speed Turn
SDNBC = Synchro-Shuttle, 4wd, Narrow with Bi-Speed turn, Cab model
SDNBF = Synchro-Shuttle, 4wd Narrow with Bi-Speed turn, Foldable mid-mounted ROPS
SU = Special Utility, 2wd
SU-R = Special Utility 2wd, Rigid ROPS
SU-F = Special Utility 2wd, Foldable ROPS SU-TF = Special Utility 2wd, Turf Special
SUD-R = Special Utility, 4wd, Rigid ROPS
SUD-F = Special Utility, 4wd, Foldable ROPS
SUMDT = Special Utility, Mechanical Shuttle, 4wd
SUDT = Special Utility, 4wd
W = Wide Row
H = 2WD, ROPS (Note: All H-Models are Std. Swing Shift 16F X 16R speeds)
HC = 2WD, CAB
HD = Swing Shift, 4WD, ROPS
HDC = Swing Shift, 4WD, CAB
DS = Dual speed, ROPS (Note: All Dual Speed models are 32F X 32R speeds)
DSC = Dual speed, CAB
SDSCC = Dual speed, CAB, cold weather w/high amp alternator and creep speed and second remote valve
SDSC = Swing Shift Dual Speed, CAB DSDF = Dual Speed, 4WD, ROPS
SDSL = Dual Speed, 4WD, Low Profile

M-Series Notes:

Suffix "1” models are the second generation "Wide” Cab tractors. Cab is 5.7 inches wider than first models.
Suffix "2” models are factory equipped with 540 / 1000 RPM PTO kits. M95S and M105S:
The "S” represents the model/tractor class in general is no specific meaning, however it can be applied to "Swing Shift” as the base transmission on all "S” models.
M50-Series 1983 - 1984 Cab was orange in color, air conditioning was optional.

 

[Bluegill2]

ljohnson, I thought I saw 'Dual Traction' somewhere, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the info.

 

[fred239]

ljohnson, I thought I saw 'Dual Traction' somewhere, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the info.

It is definitely "Dual Traction" as it says on my operators manual. But that manual is not very helpful. Back to the original question, where to get a fair priced repair/shop manual for a L3000DT. Any one found one yet?

 

[sixdogs]

It is definitely "Dual Traction" as it says on my operators manual. But that manual is not very helpful. Back to the original question, where to get a fair priced repair/shop manual for a L3000DT. Any one found one yet?

When I bought them in the past I got the best price from a mail order dealer.

If you happen to buy any parts manuals, it's an eclectic experience. Some models seem to have them while a closely related model may not. The only parts manual I could get for my M8950 was a cab model yet the majority of tractors were open station. While I bought the "wrong" parts manual just to have something, it failed to cover the model I had. Beats me.

 

[sixdogs]

ljohnson--Let me compliment you on the excellent detective work regarding the Kubota model designation a couple posts earlier. I don't think any other maker has made so many models and so many changes.

 

[Artisan]

I highly recommend Lashley Tractor. They have conistantly
been cheaper on price on everything I have checked. Additionally
so long as an item is not "wholegoods", if it is over $50.00 the
shipping is FREE. I usually hunt down a guy there named Tracy.
Please tell him Hello for me.

 

[Artisan]

WOW!
Post #11 should be a sticky!
Nice Job!

 

[ljohnson778]

ljohnson--Let me compliment you on the excellent detective work regarding the Kubota model designation a couple posts earlier. I don't think any other maker has made so many models and so many changes.

Thanks... I'd love to take credit, but it was posted on another forum by a Kubota tech. Came across it when I had my M6040 and hung on to it for reference.

 

[MFortie]

This is an old post, but thought I'd offer the part number for the L3800HST as I just ordered one:

9Y121-05200

Regards,

Mark

 

[number9L]

Is that part # for the 4x4 model? I've been meaning to buy one.

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