Getting Kubota TLB L46. Need some help

[Duffster]

You are correct. But ,
While federal standards set the baseline for weight-station requirements, what is and is not acceptable is ultimately determined by local and state jurisdictions. And this is why you see you State D.O.T & State Police working Hand - n - Hand

So show what is stricter than the federal standard.

You talk the talk but can't walk the walk.

 

[jdonovan]

You might want to look at your regulation again. If you tractor and trailer are over 10,000lbs you will have to get the proper endorsements. You may weigh in under 26,000lbs truck and trailer, but your trailer is going to be over 10,000lbs with tractor and equipment. And that is what they will nail you on. Good luck

Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

Ok,

Class A
Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds. Vehicles in this class include:

I'm under 26,001 in total so I don't fit a class A

Class B

Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more towing another vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or less. This class includes:

I'm under 26,001 on the power unit so I don't fit a class B

Class C
Any vehicle that is not included in classes A or B that carries hazardous materials or is designed to carry 16 or more occupants, including the driver.

I'm not hazmat, nor do I have 16 or more passengers. Nope, not class C either.

So what exactly makes you think I would need a CDL for within Virginia?

 

[Tailrotor]

So show what is stricter than the federal standard.

You talk the talk but can't walk the walk.

Sir , I am not going to get into a pi$$ing match with you. What I have stated is true for My state and many others. There are way to many rules and regulation for me to try and post. You think you can just hook up to your truck and trailer and drive were ever you want to as long as you are under 26k.

But there is far more to it then that. Your truck weight class, axle weight, tongue weight, individual axle weight of your trailer. And how you load your trailer. Proper hitch class, proper size ball and rated weight of the ball. When you drive over the scales and you have an axle over because you loaded your trailer wrong. This will all get you a fine if not done correctly. And then with out the proper licenses , endorsements, or combination of these will get you in even deeper. Good luck and good driving. Everyone can get away with anything until they get caught.

And one more thing if I go by your rules lets say I have a F150 and it weighs in at 5500lbs and now you hook up to a trailer with equipment that weighs 20,000lbs. Your under 26k right. Now you go down the highway and loose control crushing and killing people. Who do you think is going to be a fault.

You, There is no way a truck of that class can stop a load of that mass. But hey you were under 26k. Right / Wrong. Good luck and I will keep an eye out for ya.

 

[Duffster]

Sir , I am not going to get into a pi$$ing match with you. What I have stated is true for My state and many others. There are way to many rules and regulation for me to try and post. You think you can just hook up to your truck and trailer and drive were ever you want to as long as you are under 26k.

No need to get in a pissing macth, just back your statement with facts.

What you have stated is not true and I have shown why it is not.

Continous repitition on your behalf does not make it true.

BTW Even if what you say was true I could still drive that through PA because I would fall under federal regulation.

 

[Duffster]

So what exactly makes you think I would need a CDL for within Virginia?

It's the wacky weed. :laughing:

 

[Tailrotor]

Ok,

Class A
Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds. Vehicles in this class include:

I'm under 26,001 in total so I don't fit a class A

Class B

Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds jdonovanI'm under 26,001 on the power unit so I don't fit a class B

Class C
Any vehicle that is not included in classes A or B that carries hazardous materials or is designed to carry 16 or more occupants, including the driver.

I'm not hazmat, nor do I have 16 or more passengers. Nope, not class C either.

So what exactly makes you think I would need a CDL for within Virginia?

jdonovan

What this means is you can have a truck that weighs 15k and a trailer that weighs in at 10k = 25k your still legal as long as you truck and trailer are properly class and labeled. Now read the part were it says ( or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds. Your M59 and trailer and equipment will be over 10k plus your truck. Even know your under the 26k your trailer is not under 10k and you must be under 10k with the trailer or you will need the class A endorsement. Do what you want but don't drive through P.A.

 

[avc8130]

This topic has clearly gone astray, but it interests me.

I have been reading Kubota literature until I am blue in the face about L39/45. It appears one of their MAIN selling points is that these machines are "easily transported by a 3/4 ton pickup truck and 10,000-pound GVWR trailer". They go further to say "requires ONLY a C class license in most states".

10k is a magic number somewhere along the way.
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[Tailrotor]

It's the wacky weed. :laughing:

I never said you need a C.D.L you need the proper endorsements. What ever they may be for your class.

 

[Duffster]

Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds

I missed your edit.

You have to read the whole sentence, not just part. See I can take that and high light a different part to make it read something else.

]Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds

So according to the part in red you need a CDL just because it is over 26,000 GCWR. But you and I both know that isn't true.

 

[jdonovan]

Your M59 and trailer and equipment will be over 10k plus your truck. Even know your under the 26k your trailer is not under 10k and you must be under 10k with the trailer or you will need the class A endorsement. Do what you want but don't drive through P.A.

NO

YOU ARE WRONG

I'll make it big and bold because you are either blind, or have a comprehension problem. I can't help with comprehension, but I can at least point out the really relevant part for you.

Class A
Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds.

As long as the combination is < 26,001 then no CDL is required in Virginia.

I don't give a crap about what the laws in your state/county/town/township are. I'm not operating there.