GETTING SOMETHING NEW!

[kodiak88]

I honestly don't care how many miles someone has driving big trucks, that is just not a safe and certainly not a legal way to secure that load. Would you be willing to pull into a weigh station like that and see what highway patrol thinks about it? I know I wouldn't but as I said before, to each his own...
QOUTE FROM DMACE
Went on new york state trooper site ,and was directed to federal motor carrier regs.
ss393.100 states critera for loads
1 decelaration forward
2 acceleration rearward
3 acceleration lateral
Nothing about preparing for a head on collision!!!
ss393.130 for loads 10,000 or more. or refer to reg 393.128 for under 10,000 lbs 2 tie downs provide for the three criteria in reg 393.100
Table 393.108 g/70 chain 5/16 rated 4700#x 2=9400# well more than i needed so it CERTIANLY WAS LEGAL.

 

[Steve_Miller]

I'm guessing the trailer ball would break off in a violent head on collision as it is probably a one inch bolt. Let's not think of negative thoughts anymore.

Steve

 

[WilliamBos]

Let's not think of negative thoughts anymore.

Steve

I agree. Awesome tractor!!

 

[crashz]

We got lost in the banter about securing the tractor and that nonsense that I almost forgot to ask: Who's the chick?

Good luck with your new machine, looks very nice!

 

[Dmace]

We got lost in the banter about securing the tractor and that nonsense

Your right, properly securing a tractor is nonsense...

I'm curious about a reply from Wallace, maybe he's busy "securing" another tractor in a box truck with some 2x4's...

 

[Duffster]

Here are pics of the day i picked it up at ,Wallace tractor and equiptment.

Nice tractor.

Nice hauler too.

 

[wallace]

Your right, properly securing a tractor is nonsense...

I'm curious about a reply from Wallace, maybe he's busy "securing" another tractor in a box truck with some 2x4's...

Are you done yet?

 

[Dmace]

Are you done yet?

Nope, I think the way you allow these tractors to leave your yard barely secured to trailers that leave little room in the GVW to spare is dangerous and borderline illegal.

You really think that strapping the attachments alone and having no tie downs on the tractor itself is safe? The local highway patrolman here at the scales surely didn't when I showed him the picture.

 

[Duffster]

Nope, I think the way you allow these tractors to leave your yard barely secured to trailers that leave little room in the GVW to spare is dangerous and borderline illegal.

Certainly you must be joking.

It sure the **** isn't the dealers job to babysit the owner of a tractor or that owners method of tying a tractor to the trailer.

You really think that strapping the attachments alone and having no tie downs on the tractor itself is safe? The local highway patrolman here at the scales surely didn't when I showed him the picture.

There can be a difference between legal and safe.

Kodiak's method of securing his tractor may not be legal but is perfectly safe.

 

[wallace]

Nope, I think the way you allow these tractors to leave your yard barely secured to trailers that leave little room in the GVW to spare is dangerous and borderline illegal.

You really think that strapping the attachments alone and having no tie downs on the tractor itself is safe? The local highway patrolman here at the scales surely didn't when I showed him the picture.

Tell ya what...Why don't you make the drive down to my place next spring when we hold our annual cookout and ask the DOT what they think.. that way you and I will be on the same page.
Other than that I have said all I need to say about this topic.
Good day to you.

 

[Grand_Pooba]

I checked my CT230 manual last night and shows one two chains in the back attached from the tractor drawbar mount to the back corners of the trailer. One the fron it had the same setup attached to the plate the brush guard is mounted to. Since the chains go to the corners it holds the tractor in both forward/back and side to side. As far the backhoe "only" being held on by two 1" dia pins...do you have any idea what the shear strength of a 1" pin is?!? The chain and trailer mount would bust long before you sheared two 1" pins. fYI a 2" hitch is held into the reciever on your truck with one 1/2" pin.

BTW Real nice tractor!!!

 

[WilliamBos]

As far the backhoe "only" being held on by two 1" dia pins...do you have any idea what the shear strength of a 1" pin is?!? The chain and trailer mount would bust long before you sheared two 1" pins. fYI a 2" hitch is held into the receiver on your truck with one 1/2" pin.

BTW Real nice tractor!!!

Exactly... Thank You!!

 

[Lloyd_E]

Not fair!
Wallace cheated. He knew the answer... knows more than most before hand... not fair!!!

Nice tractor and truck and trailer! Although you should change the name of the trailer to "do a lot!".

Have fun - play safe.

Did I mention Wallace cheated... not fair!!!

Lloyd

 

[kodiak88]

Dmace Re: GETTING SOMETHING NEW!

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Originally Posted by wallace
Are you done yet?

Nope, I think the way you allow these tractors to leave your yard barely secured to trailers that leave little room in the GVW to spare is dangerous and borderline illegal.

You really think that strapping the attachments alone and having no tie downs on the tractor itself is safe? The local highway patrolman here at the scales surely didn't when I showed him the picture

HEY DMACE,I hope this isnt the picture you showed the highway patrol
Kinda forgot to chain her down legally,oh you shouldnt let those safty chains drag on the ground you might need them in an accident

 

[kodiak88]

Oh,forgot to mention it,but its illegal to have your backhoe extending past the side of your trailer,but like you say to each his own...

 

[Dmace]

HEY DMACE,I hope this isnt the picture you showed the highway patrol
Kinda forgot to chain her down legally,oh you shouldnt let those safty chains drag on the ground you might need them in an accident

Oh,forgot to mention it,but its illegal to have your backhoe extending past the side of your trailer,but like you say to each his own...

First of all, the chains are not touching the ground but are just about 4-5" above. If this was my trailer and not a rental I may make them shorter. Secondly, there are four chains and binders securing the TRACTOR to the trailer via 4 huge D-rings, the chains are barely visible in the picture since they are under the tractor but are there. The straps you see are going across the attachments to keep them from bouncing around as I don't rely on attachments to properly secure a tractor.

Lastly, if you look at a second picture that shows a front view, you will see that the backhoe DOES NOT stick out past the fender.

If only you were as concerned about your own loaded trailer...

 

[Steve_Miller]

Enough, no need to start bashing each other, this thread was about a new owner.

Steve

 

[kodiak88]

I just wanted to show everyone on the kioti part of this site that i was joining their group.thanks to all who responded,and also to my canadian friends,and to my dealer who has taken unecessary heat.Some people just dont see what its really about ,and we can only feel sorry for them.If anyone can shut this thread down i would appreciate it.

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

I just wanted to show everyone on the kioti part of this site that i was joining their group.thanks to all who responded,and also to my canadian friends,and to my dealer who has taken unecessary heat.Some people just dont see what its really about ,and we can only feel sorry for them.If anyone can shut this thread down i would appreciate it.

Congratulations on your new tractor! Sold my tractor a couple of years and I am looking forward to the day I get another one!

 

[Oleozz]

Best of luck with your new tractor. The Kioti's are as good as any brand being made, they seem rugged and reliable.