oldpilgrim
Elite Member
I looked at the gun because it's not plastic.
TripleR, OK. I do not want to be responsible for moving the thread, so no more posts on the matter.
The opening poster did make a statement "those of you with younger kids, I would encourage you to start them as early as you feel they're responsible enough to handle it" and the man only responded by saying no thank you because he did not want his kids to rely on guns. How do you make that to be political?
Surely my point of view in #85 was more political than his. Yet because I said I was pro gun it stood without comment or complaint. Your attitude unfortunately is what turns a lot of people against guns and gun owners - and I might add, US gun owners in particular. You did not do us any good by trying to shut up somebody who you think is against us, but probably is ambivalent. I think it is essential that everybody realises that the wider world opinion does matter, even if it cannot at present affect us as gun owners. That opinion will eventually get through to some politicians. Best to simply ignore something we disagree with.
The opening poster did make a statement "those of you with younger kids, I would encourage you to start them as early as you feel they're responsible enough to handle it" and the man only responded by saying no thank you because he did not want his kids to rely on guns. How do you make that to be political?
Surely my point of view in #85 was more political than his. Yet because I said I was pro gun it stood without comment or complaint. Your attitude unfortunately is what turns a lot of people against guns and gun owners - and I might add, US gun owners in particular. You did not do us any good by trying to shut up somebody who you think is against us, but probably is ambivalent. I think it is essential that everybody realises that the wider world opinion does matter, even if it cannot at present affect us as gun owners. That opinion will eventually get through to some politicians. Best to simply ignore something we disagree with.
And down the worm hole we go!
Well it sounds fairly easy if expensive to buy a handgun, but you can't really use it for anything but target shooting. Not for personal defense.
Additional Notes on handguns and registration
This section is only applicable to those discerning connoisseurs of firearms who are interested in owning handguns, or other restricted firearms such as AR-15 rifles. You will learn this stuff (and more) in the CRFSC. You don't need to know this before you take the class but it's nice to know things in advance.
All restricted firearms must be registered. Licensing and registration are not the same thing. Even without a "long gun registry" all restricted and prohibited firearms must be registered. That means handguns, and even some kinds of long guns must still be registered.
Registration is a process that amounts to letting the RCMP CFP know who owns particular firearms and where they keep them. It happens automatically when you purchase an applicable firearm at a store. With a private sales the buyer and seller must call the RCMP CFP and initiate the transfer themselves. I find the calls tend to take about 10 minutes, they can answer any questions not covered in the CRFSC at that time too.
Neither an RPAL or an ATT (more on that in a minute) is an authorization tocarry a handgun, or any other firearm, either concealed or visible, in public or private.
In order to do that you need an Authorization To Carry (ATC, not to be confused withATT). Generally you will not be able to get an ATC, unless you have a job which requires it, such as guarding money.
Being worried that you'll be a victim of crime is not sufficient cause for theRCMP CFP to issue you an ATC.
It's not generally legal to shoot restricted firearms on private property (such as a farm or acreage) unless that property has an RCMP approved firing range.
As I said, you can't just carry your restricted firearms around with you, so how do you take them from your home to the shooting range? You'll need what's called and Authorization To Transport (ATT.) Notice the difference between Carry and Transport.
Transporting means you're taking a restricted firearm directly from the place it's registered at (eg. your house) to a location indicated on the ATT, such as an RCMP approved shooting range, gunsmith, or somewhere to sell it. You'll need to do so in accordance with the terms of the ATT you're issued, and with the general transportation requirements.
Basically that means the firearm must be unloaded, secured with a trigger lock (or similar,) be inside a locked container, which is then (if possible) in a locked trunk, with the ammunition also locked up. You must then proceed by the most direct reasonable means. So don't get any ideas about leaving your handgun in the trunk "just in case."
You will probably also need to belong to a gun club. It's my understanding that all Chief Firearms Officers (CFO) require you to be a member of a gun club in order to issue an ATT.
Since you can't shoot a restricted firearm pretty much anywhere except at an approved range they may require you be a member of one. Prices for gun club memberships range from very cheap to insanely expensive, so shop around