Global Warming?

[Egon]

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[Short Game]

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Yeah, I think that most of the time.

 

[Egon]

That's entropy!:thumbsup:

Always been confused by entropy. Always figured the greater the disorder the higher the simplicity??

But again my marks were not made on the scholastic side!:thumbsup:

 

[Cat_Driver]

The real fact on GULLIBLE WARMING.

Me, just a knucklehead with a high school edumacation. Pretty stupid, blue collar, Joe six pack, paper bag lunch kinda guy. Now, this ol earth has been around for about 5 billion years. That is BILLION. There has been ice 200 feet deep right where I am sitting.

Exact, well kept records on climate have been kept by people far smarter then me for some 150 years. Now, along comes this guy, Al Gore, who tells us all to jump on our bicycles or the sky will fall. The earth has been cooling, freezing, warming, getting hotter then Flukes panties for as long as that medium size star we call the sun has been burning.

We, as human beings, are nothing more then natures latest experiment in life. Micro organisms ruled the planet for several million years, then larger life forms came along and had their time in the sun. Dinosaurs had a **** of a run for several hundred million years. Humans have been around in their primitive and so called "advanced" forms for about 100,000 years or so. We have just about had our run, will wind up killing our own kind off over the next few hundred years. And the earth will just swallow us up, try out another life form, and go on heating and cooling.

Now Al Gore got his Nobel Prize for Science and his million dollars. I want mine. Sure would help pay the monthly bills, buy some nice 12 packs of Corona Extra Gold Dry and a new paint job for my pick up.

 

[Johnp33]

I find it very interesting that the oil companies that hired all these guys to promote the anti Global warming threw the same lobbying group that did tobaco.
Now all of a sudden when the natural gas drillers are being slammed because of the people that are having the their water polluted. The oil and gas industries, wants people to just wait for the science to do its work and not judge the practice prematurely.

 

[newbury]

And southern New England, Maine, NS,PEI,Canada north to Greenland!
The gulfstream affects these places to a degree before it heads across the Atlantic- though less than Europe.

The last time I looked it up the "shutdown of the Gulfstream" was due to the effect of the Labrador current and the flow of coldwater from Greenland disupting it southeast of Greenland. I had not read of any "quick" changes in climate for parts west of where the shutdown occurs. So I think that the US and Canada would only be slightly directly affected.

Unlike if the West Antarctica Ice Sheet "suddenly" (in the course of a few years?) slides off the base rock, which rebounds, and the sea level around the world rises up to 21 feet, again over the course of a few years.

There is a good interactive link showing the effect of sea level rise:
Washington D.C. - Global Warming Sea Level Rise Map

So you can figure out where to buy property that's going to be waterfront!

 

[Tollster]

Now all of a sudden when the natural gas drillers are being slammed because of the people that are having the their water polluted. The oil and gas industries, wants people to just wait for the science to do its work and not judge the practice prematurely.

Here is why they want to wait for the scientific proof, as its written in Pennsylvania's new frac law, act 13, which makes Pennsylvania residents the test subjects without any legal recourse. Meanwhile,they continue to exploit the citizens, and the environment with their toxic brew.

"The law also prevents heath professionals from discussing medical impacts. On page 99, it requires oil and gas companies to tell medical professionals what chemicals are used in drilling fluids but only after they sign the statement of need and a confidentiality agreement. However those details the chemicals in drilling fluid and medical significance it states a page later, are secret and shall not be a public record.

I know exactly why that is in there, said Shields. That makes it extremely difficult to bring a civil suit if the information is locked away behind confidentiality agreements. A physician can't release information during discovery. They can't even tell another patient that they are dealing with the same thing. They can't go to a public health official and disclose it this lady has benzene in her blood, or methyl-whatever. He can't do it.


Here is a brief overview of the law from the people that have to live it on the recieving end.

I know many here do not like to hear the truth, no matter where it comes from!

Fracking Democracy: Why Pennsylvania's Act 13 May Be the Nation's Worst Corporate Giveaway | | AlterNet

 

[rsewill]

Here is why they want to wait for the scientific proof, as its written in Pennsylvania's new frac law, act 13, which makes Pennsylvania residents the test subjects without any legal recourse. Meanwhile,they continue to exploit the citizens, and the environment with their toxic brew.

"The law also prevents heath professionals from discussing medical impacts. On page 99, it requires oil and gas companies to tell medical professionals what chemicals are used in drilling fluids but only after they sign the statement of need and a confidentiality agreement. However those details the chemicals in drilling fluid and medical significance it states a page later, are secret and shall not be a public record.

I know exactly why that is in there, said Shields. That makes it extremely difficult to bring a civil suit if the information is locked away behind confidentiality agreements. A physician can't release information during discovery. They can't even tell another patient that they are dealing with the same thing. They can't go to a public health official and disclose it this lady has benzene in her blood, or methyl-whatever. He can't do it.

Here is a brief overview of the law from the people that have to live it on the recieving end.

I know many here do not like to hear the truth, no matter where it comes from!

Fracking Democracy: Why Pennsylvania's Act 13 May Be the Nation's Worst Corporate Giveaway | | AlterNet

Dang librals and there stupid laws.

 

[rsewill]

The real fact on GULLIBLE WARMING.

Me, just a knucklehead with a high school edumacation. Pretty stupid, blue collar, Joe six pack, paper bag lunch kinda guy. Now, this ol earth has been around for about 5 billion years. That is BILLION. There has been ice 200 feet deep right where I am sitting.

Exact, well kept records on climate have been kept by people far smarter then me for some 150 years. Now, along comes this guy, Al Gore, who tells us all to jump on our bicycles or the sky will fall. The earth has been cooling, freezing, warming, getting hotter then Flukes panties for as long as that medium size star we call the sun has been burning.

Natural warming versus man made warming. One we can do something about.

 

[Tollster]

Is it still March?



Feels a lot like May around here, pretty certain we'll get a frost that will damage a lot of natural fruits, particularly the apple trees. Our last day in these parts for frost is around May 16, I see the weather man has 70 degree highs for the next week.