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patrick_g
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Greenland ice sheet may melt completely with 1.6 degrees of global warming
Posted: 11 Mar 2012 09:32 PM PDT
The Greenland ice sheet is likely to be more vulnerable to global warming than previously thought. The temperature threshold for melting the ice sheet completely is in the range of 0.8 to 3.2 degrees Celsius of global warming, with a best estimate of 1.6 degrees above pre-industrial levels, shows a new study.
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Hey, it is easy to say this is insufficiently documented/proven. It is trivial to say so and so didn't supply enough proof. Anyone can say that about anything. The remarks are simplistic and of no value to the discussion. Disagreeing is fine and no one should mind informed dissent but don't just say nay, offer evidence to the contrary, if you have any.
Oh by the way the source is Science Daily which releases condensed "teasers" which if stimulated to LEARN more you go to their site and read the unabridged version and or the actual journal pub when it comes out.
Pat
Posted: 11 Mar 2012 09:32 PM PDT
The Greenland ice sheet is likely to be more vulnerable to global warming than previously thought. The temperature threshold for melting the ice sheet completely is in the range of 0.8 to 3.2 degrees Celsius of global warming, with a best estimate of 1.6 degrees above pre-industrial levels, shows a new study.
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Hey, it is easy to say this is insufficiently documented/proven. It is trivial to say so and so didn't supply enough proof. Anyone can say that about anything. The remarks are simplistic and of no value to the discussion. Disagreeing is fine and no one should mind informed dissent but don't just say nay, offer evidence to the contrary, if you have any.
Oh by the way the source is Science Daily which releases condensed "teasers" which if stimulated to LEARN more you go to their site and read the unabridged version and or the actual journal pub when it comes out.
Pat
patrick_g
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Global warming skepticism climbs during tough economic times
Posted: 13 Mar 2012 09:24 AM PDT
The American public's growing skepticism in recent years about the existence of human-made global warming is rooted in apprehension about the troubled economy, a new study suggests.
Posted: 13 Mar 2012 09:24 AM PDT
The American public's growing skepticism in recent years about the existence of human-made global warming is rooted in apprehension about the troubled economy, a new study suggests.
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One of the problems AND solutions which seems to often be ignored is the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS).
WAIS collapse will raise sea level up to 21 feet. Talk about "surf's up".
The problem is of course that a lot of the world population centers will be flooded. The solution is that a lot of the world population will die.
Like the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" the sheet could crack and collapse rather suddenly, in geologic terms.
some links
Ancient glacial melting shows that small amount of subsurface warming can trigger rapid collapse of ice shelves
West Antarctic Ice Sheet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the crack
Gigantic Antarctic crack mapped for the first time - National News - National - General - Kiama Independent
Don't have to worry about New Orleans, it'll be gone.
WAIS collapse will raise sea level up to 21 feet. Talk about "surf's up".
The problem is of course that a lot of the world population centers will be flooded. The solution is that a lot of the world population will die.
Like the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" the sheet could crack and collapse rather suddenly, in geologic terms.
some links
Ancient glacial melting shows that small amount of subsurface warming can trigger rapid collapse of ice shelves
West Antarctic Ice Sheet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the crack
Gigantic Antarctic crack mapped for the first time - National News - National - General - Kiama Independent
Don't have to worry about New Orleans, it'll be gone.
rsewill
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There is no global warming. I heard it on the radio. Daily. If not at least every three hours. Over and over again. Somebody (corporations are people) must be very afraid of the science to insist talk radio hosts repeat the mantra that there is no global warming.
DKCDKC
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There are actually two issues. Is there a warming of the global climate? And, if there is, is it caused by humans? Certainly some scientific evidence and some apocryphal evidence in specific areas indicates a warming is occurring. On the apocryphal side, I have old newspapers indicating folks could ride from town to town in a horse-drawn sleigh in the 1880s here in the Shenandoah Valley for essentially all winter. Now we have a few feet of snow a winter and it melts quickly. And we had no snow at all this winter.
There are a number of climate models I have seen showing a number of climatical cycles over decades and centuries that show us getting warmer globally.
The kicker is whether anything humans do or have done is affecting that climate. Given the size of the earth and its atmosphere, it just doesn't seem that likely. I have not seen any evidence I find convincing yet, but I continue to look.
There are a number of climate models I have seen showing a number of climatical cycles over decades and centuries that show us getting warmer globally.
The kicker is whether anything humans do or have done is affecting that climate. Given the size of the earth and its atmosphere, it just doesn't seem that likely. I have not seen any evidence I find convincing yet, but I continue to look.
Egon
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The kicker is whether anything humans do or have done is affecting that climate. Given the size of the earth and its atmosphere, it just doesn't seem that likely. I have not seen any evidence I find convincing yet, but I continue to look.
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Apocryphal in it's own right.
What we need is a list of all the people, and companies, that are sure there is no such thing as global warming. Get them all to sign up, and then if say, 50 years from now there property goes under water, they especially will not want anyone to give them compensation for the land loss. We all heard about how the Republicans are against bailouts except for the crying spell from Boehner.
If you go to Nasa's site it shows some interesting facts, I live at the 2,000 ft level so unless their is a drought and fire, I will be OK
If you go to Nasa's site it shows some interesting facts, I live at the 2,000 ft level so unless their is a drought and fire, I will be OK
Short Game
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Noah: What is this?
The Lord God: It's an Ark.
Noah: Aha.
You wanna get it outta my driveway? I gotta get to work.
Listen, what's this thing for, anyway?
The Lord God: I can't tell you.
Noah: Well, I mean, can't you give me a little hint?
The Lord God: You wanna a hint?
Noah: Yes, please.
The Lord God: How long can you tread water?
The Lord God: It's an Ark.
Noah: Aha.
You wanna get it outta my driveway? I gotta get to work.
Listen, what's this thing for, anyway?
The Lord God: I can't tell you.
Noah: Well, I mean, can't you give me a little hint?
The Lord God: You wanna a hint?
Noah: Yes, please.
The Lord God: How long can you tread water?
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