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   / Global Warming? #591  
If one were to actually follow the money, would it lead to a gang of climate scientists getting filthy rich for some One World Government conspiracy, or perhaps to certain energy (and related) corporate interests?
 
   / Global Warming? #593  
Scientists forecast forest carbon loss

Posted: 06 Apr 2012 05:28 AM PDT

For more than 30 years, scientists at the Harvard Forest have scaled towers into the forest canopy and measured the trunks of trees to track how much carbon is stored or lost from the woods each year.
Long-term studies detect effects of disappearing snow and ice

Posted: 06 Apr 2012 05:28 AM PDT

Regions of the earth where water is frozen for at least a month each year are shrinking as a result of global warming. Some of the effects on ecosystems are now being revealed through research conducted at affected sites over decades. They include dislocations of the relationships between predators and their prey, as well as changes in the movement through ecosystems of carbon and nutrients. The changes interact in complex ways that are not currently well understood, but effects on human populations are becoming apparent.

Sorry, my "Random Cute Name" generator is down for cleaning.
 
   / Global Warming? #594  
Ohhh SO SORRY Gullible Warming People......

Come on trust twisters, SPLAIN this one away.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) A spring snowfall has broken the nearly 60-year-old seasonal snow record of Alaska's largest city.

Anchorage, Alaska's largest city, breaks seasonal snow record ? USATODAY.com

This is an example of extreme weather as precipitation. It seems as though your making a correlation to temperature?
Bad example...try to find examples of low temperature extremes.
 
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   / Global Warming? #595  
This an example of extreme weather as precipitation. It seems as though your making a correlation to temperature?
Bad example...try to find examples of low temperature extremes.

As someone who has been to Alaska and spent three winters in Minot, ND where winters are almost always harsher than Anchorage Alaska, I am familiar with a concept of too cold to snow.

In Minot the snowfall typically is represented by a double humped curve where mid winter with coldest temps (I was personally out in -47) gets less snow than the warmer winter temps before and after. It is not inconsistent to consider that a slight warming could result in more snow. But so what?

Some area gets more snow... so that is better evidence of NO GLOBAL WARMING than the ice shelves melting, glaciers retreating faster, ocean routes impassible even with icebreakers now in use with no ice breakers, and on and on and on.

Hooray, we can forget about any problems anywhere on the earth due to climate change because one limited area in Alaska had extra snowfall. I'm so relieved.

Next problem, please: Anyone? Tight shoes?, short pant cuffs?, embarrassing itch? To high fuel economy?, too low fuel prices?, or aphids on your roses.... anything????
 
   / Global Warming? #596  
Tim, you are guilty, as are many of us, of making pronouncements with no evidence, that we are supposed to believe because of how you state them. Someone is a 'complete fraud' or deniers are in the 'extreme minority.' These statements, in terms of argumentation, are of no value and weaken your position. Without supporting evidence they amount to name calling. And right or wrong, it gives the impression, that you are one of many who simply believe what they hear on TV without fully knowing why. And yes, that is an unfair assessment, but when you argue with ad hominem attacks and dubious qualifiers like 'extreme' that is still the impression that is given.

And I'll go back to my measuring stick for this issue. Have ANY scientists who promote the idea of manmade global warming...or even natural global warming...delineated, in a reasonably scientific fashion, the ways in which this planet will BENEFIT from global warming?

Why did we ever assume that it would be all bad? Therein lies the answer to why we are having this..discussion...in the first place.
 
   / Global Warming? #597  
I wonder what folks who live in low lying coastal regions (disproportionate percentage of the wealth in real estate) think about the melting ice and the downside possibilities of ocean levels rising?

On the other hand, folks who live a little higher up and farther from the beach could see their holdings appreciate significantly for a while at least.

Pat ;)
 
   / Global Warming? #598  
Antartic coast Ice cores:

Any ideas where that ice was located when it was formed?:thumbsup:

The Coastal sea ice is mostly new ice each year. That ice is composed of salt water. There is an addition of precipitation which is fresh water in the form of Snow and ice crystals. The Fresh water glaciers that move from the Arctic Continent down to the sea can travel many miles from their deposit location mixing and churning as it moves.
 
   / Global Warming? #599  
Tim, you are guilty, as are many of us, of making pronouncements with no evidence, that we are supposed to believe because of how you state them. Someone is a 'complete fraud' or deniers are in the 'extreme minority.' These statements, in terms of argumentation, are of no value and weaken your position. Without supporting evidence they amount to name calling. And right or wrong, it gives the impression, that you are one of many who simply believe what they hear on TV without fully knowing why. And yes, that is an unfair assessment, but when you argue with ad hominem attacks and dubious qualifiers like 'extreme' that is still the impression that is given.

And I'll go back to my measuring stick for this issue. Have ANY scientists who promote the idea of manmade global warming...or even natural global warming...delineated, in a reasonably scientific fashion, the ways in which this planet will BENEFIT from global warming?

Why did we ever assume that it would be all bad? Therein lies the answer to why we are having this..discussion...in the first place.


I'm just giving you a heads up if you haven't already noticed, Tim is in al gores back pocket..................kind of like a global warming poster child. Lol That's why I no I won't look at this for a few more days and Im pretty sure Tim will still be in heated debate with someone when I click it back on. But I guess it takes all kinds?????? Lol Nic
 
   / Global Warming? #600  
The Coastal sea ice is mostly new ice each year. That ice is composed of salt water. There is an addition of precipitation which is fresh water in the form of Snow and ice crystals. The Fresh water glaciers that move from the Arctic Continent down to the sea can travel many miles from their deposit location mixing and churning as it moves.

So, could it be said, that the coastal ice cores would be composed of older ice than the interior ice cores?:)
 
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