gm buying dodge?

[workinallthetime]

Wasn't it the GM trucks that burned so many people to death because it was cheaper to litigate than to mount the fuel tanks inside the frame rails?

Pat

i thought it was the pinto that had the rear end combustion chamber?

all i know is that my wife is an er nurse and has seen way to may kids left parentless because their mom and dad were in a jap car and got in a wreck head on and the ENGINE came into the passenger compartment and killed one or both of them
but hey that is just my experience im sure everyone has their own life stories that shape who they are and what they buy and where they live

you might be a redneck if "you no longer drink wine ever since the screw cap got caught up your nose."

 

[Egon]

It was both, Pinto and GM trucks.

 

[KICK]

Wasn't it the GM trucks that burned so many people to death because it was cheaper to litigate than to mount the fuel tanks inside the frame rails?

Pat

talk about a fallacy.

remember when NBC did their expose' on that issue? nbc HAD TO PUT AN EXPLODING CHARGE the GM truck to get the fire to start.

Objectivity in the Media creates Parrots who repeat what they are told.

 

[mboulais]

Wasn't it the GM trucks that burned so many people to death because it was cheaper to litigate than to mount the fuel tanks inside the frame rails?

Pat

I hope your not refering to the whole Dateline fiasco where they showed that on TV. GM now has that truck on display. Dateline rigged it with a pile of model rocket engines to make it go up like that. Don't believe the media.


Edit- OOPs, I didn't read all the way down before posting, Kick is Right.

 

[KICK]

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Edit- OOPs, I didn't read all the way down before posting, Kick is Right.

2nd opinions are alwayswelcome.

 

[Northland]

What's your source?
Show us the more accurate up to date data that you have???

Well, keep smiling and patting yourself on the back that Toyota full size trucks have more American content than full size GM or Ford trucks. Anytime you want to line-em up, either pulling, racing, dynoing, carrying weight or the amount of American content, I think you'll always be able to find an American built that'll kick any Japanese full size trucks azz from Tokyo to Detroit.

And what has changed so much since '04? Toyota's plant in San Antonio isn't done. Even if it was, all they're doing is importing Japanese engines, transmissions, rears, brakes, electrical sytems, etc. and assembling them in the USA. Does that make you feel really " 'Murrican made?"

In a quick net search I found these articles about content.

American Automobile Labeling Act

Made in America? Hard to tell - The Boston Globe

Mom, Apple Pie and...Toyota? Ford Says It's Patriotic to Buy A Mustang, but Sienna Is Made In Indiana With More U.S. Parts JATHON SAPSFORD & NORIHIKO SHIROUZU / Wall Street Journal 11may2006

 

[workinallthetime]

maybe they should just label it right:
made in america with parts from who knows where
made by mexico by an american company
made in japan by an american company
made and sold in america by a jap company using jap parts and american labor

 

[patrick_g]

i thought it was the pinto that had the rear end combustion chamber?

The Pinto was another poster child for Detroit. The Pinto was parodied in comedy movies. Just ALMOST hitting the rear of a Pinto in a movie caused panic and or an explosion.

GMC found it cheaper to stonewall and fight to reduce compensation payments related to the INFAMOUS fuel tanks outside the frame rails design than to change the design so they put their $ on lawyers not a redesign. Corporate greed immolated several unfortunates.

Congratulations on having your own ER nurse. Now that could come in real handy every so often.

Comment fof folks who have had their feelings hurt by the truth according to Consumers Reports:

Get over it. If they say something unpopular about your favorite car or truck you may need to reexamine youir position. Consumers Reports has been sued numbers of times for reporting their test results fairly and accurately. THEY HAVE

 

[patrick_g]

i thought it was the pinto that had the rear end combustion chamber?

The Pinto was another poster child for Detroit. The Pinto was parodied in comedy movies. Just ALMOST hitting the rear of a Pinto in a movie caused panic and or an explosion.

GMC found it cheaper to stonewall and fight to reduce compensation payments related to the INFAMOUS fuel tanks outside the frame rails design than to change the design so they put their $ on lawyers not a redesign. Corporate greed immolated several unfortunates.

Congratulations on having your own ER nurse. Now that could come in real handy every so often.

Side commentary for folks who have had their feelings hurt or otherwise disagree with the truth according to Consumers Reports:

Get over it. If they say something unpopular about your favorite car or truck you need to reexamine your position. Consumers Reports has been sued numbers of times for reporting their automotive test results fairly and accurately. THEY HAVE NEVER LOST ONE OF THESE CASES!!! Auto makers with their hoards of skilled lawyers sue them but none have ever won. The Auto giants typically drop the suite when they see their case is unwinable.

They use credible engineering and careful analysis in their tests. They may not test something the way you might want it tested but the tests they do perform are fully defensible, backed by sound engineering principles and physics coupled with good statistical analysis. Consumers Reports (Consumer's Union) has been a positive force in dragging the automakers (and other industries) toward better and safer products. They sell nothing but their reliable information and accept no advertisements or freebies. They buy all the stuff they test just like you and I, at retail without revealing any affiliation with CU or Consumers Reports.

Pat

 

[Builder]

In a quick net search I found these articles about content.

American Automobile Labeling Act

Made in America? Hard to tell - The Boston Globe

Mom, Apple Pie and...Toyota? Ford Says It's Patriotic to Buy A Mustang, but Sienna Is Made In Indiana With More U.S. Parts JATHON SAPSFORD & NORIHIKO SHIROUZU / Wall Street Journal 11may2006

Boston Globe you say? you mean that far left piece of fish wrap frequently EXPOSED for its' leftist propoganda?

Like I said, anytime you want to line up a Toyota full size pickup against a GM or Ford full size and go over domestic content, I'll pay your gas and hotel bill to come up here to my place an we'll line em up to see who's got more.

Then we'll get the chains out and I'll drag your japanese made pickup kickin & screaming backwards and give you gas money for home (they don't make a diesel pickup, so will unleaded be OK?)

BTW: How are Toyota Tundra sales? Have they cracked 10% of the full size market yet? Maybe they will based on the raging success of the T-100 LOL.