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[Engineer42]

You know the story about the gun he used?

It was a Winchester Model 1892.
Problem was, the show was set in the 1870's.

Also, the gun was a 44-40 caliber, but the cartridges in his belt were 45-70. They looked bigger.

He was a beta tester.

 

[bigtiller]

You know the story about the gun he used?

It was a Winchester Model 1892.
Problem was, the show was set in the 1870's.

Also, the gun was a 44-40 caliber, but the cartridges in his belt were 45-70. They looked bigger.

I'll be darned, I never noticed that. Interesting.

 

[Runner]

The Caine Mutiny 1954, Humphrey Bogart, Van Johnson, Fred MacMurray, The Caine Muntiny Court-Martial 1988, Eric Bogosian, Jeff Daniels, Brad Davis, The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial, 2023 Kiefer Sutherland, Jason Clarke. 1988 and 2023 remakes, sort of, the two later movies were remakes of only the court-martial courtroom scene so kind of an unfair comparison, especially since the original has lots of scenes on board ship with lots of other interesting characters.

I have never seen the 2023 movie, but just comparing the courtroom scenes of the two older movies, I have to give the edge to the Bogart version (but not by much). I am always surprised by how good Daniels is in dramatic rolls (after knowing him only from Dumb and Dumber). He turned in a very solid performance as Maryk. The rest of the cast in the 1988 movie were unknown to me.

 

[masseyrider]

I'll be darned, I never noticed that. Interesting.

I don't think 99.99999999% of us did.
Just to know what they are and then spot them in a trivial Western from the early days of TV and Me( ).

 

[Runner]

I don't think 99.99999999% of us did.
Just to know what they are and then spot them in a trivial Western from the early days of TV and Me( ).

True, but isn't it fun to find such things? Like in Airport 1975, Dana Andrews is flying a Beechcraft Baron that smashes into the 747. The "N" number he states when communicating with ATC is different from the number on the plane. Stuff like that is just a hoot to me.

 

[masseyrider]

True, but isn't it fun to find such things? Like in Airport 1975, Dana Andrews is flying a Beechcraft Baron that smashes into the 747. The "N" number he states when communicating with ATC is different from the number on the plane. Stuff like that is just a hoot to me.

I had trouble paying attention in school. In the movies as long as stuff goes bang and lots of decolletage, I'm good.

 

[RobertN]

Dirty Marry Crazy Larry was also a chase movie of that era that I really enjoyed.
That blondie in VP was aboot perfect as it gets in my world.

The car movies make me wish for a car that didn't make it to the US, the Ford Falcon XA/XB/XC. I'm a Mopar fan, but those 1970's Falcon GTHO were awesome performance cars, especially in the decline of the US muscle cars (Mustang II for example).

The Aussies ran road courses; the Falcons had better handling, 4-wheel disk etc. Compared to a 1974-76 Torino that was a slug and handled like a tunaboat (compare to Starsky & Hutch Torino for example)

The Mad Max Falcon XB had the fake blower and aftermarket aero kit. The stock body XB was a nice looking car.

 

[MossRoad]

You know the story about the gun he used?

It was a Winchester Model 1892.
Problem was, the show was set in the 1870's.

Also, the gun was a 44-40 caliber, but the cartridges in his belt were 45-70. They looked bigger.

Just out of curiosity I tried to find some photos of 44-40 next to 45-70. Best I could do was this video comparing various calibers. Interesting video. But this chart kinda shows the difference between the two we're discussing.

45-70 has a tad more than 13X the energy of the 44-40. Yikes!

Anyhow, you can see the sizes of the cartridges in the video.

 

[RobertN]

Just out of curiosity I tried to find some photos of 44-40 next to 45-70. Best I could do was this video comparing various calibers. Interesting video. But this chart kinda shows the difference between the two we're discussing.

45-70 has a tad more than 13X the energy of the 44-40. Yikes!

Anyhow, you can see the sizes of the cartridges in the video.

Depends on the 45-70. The 45-70-405 was like a freight train. It was a bit much in the 1873 carbines though. There were variations in Army loads for the carbines.

But yes, the 45-70-405 was a barnstormer compared to the 44-40 200 gr load. Interesting, I have seen 44-40, 44WCF, but not the classic long description like 45-70-405. Nor for the 38-40... It seems 44WCF was the Winchester name, 44-40 was the UMC name.

 

[sd455dan]

Which is best: Original (with original soundtrack) - 1974
Re-Release (with generic soundtrack) - 2000
Remake - 2014

I vote for the original 1974 movie. To me the original sound track goes perfectly with the amateur nature of the production. That is not meant to be derogatory in any way because the charm of the story and the movie lies in the fact that an amateur on a shoestring budget was able to create something so campy and cool with no "big stars" whatsoever.

If you've never seen the movie with the original soundtrack, this channel has cleaned up versions of all the songs and lots of other interesting stuff:

What about other remakes, better or worse than original?

Not even Close the Original H.B. (Toby) Halicki was a real driver.

He never walked the same after Actually jumping Eleanor the Mustang.

He was killed unfortunately making part 2 power pole-water tower freak accident.

He did everything... driving, writing, producing, directing etc.

I like the new one too except for CGI , Toby's wife Denice was the Producer of the new one.



Another Good older Driver Movie is "The Driver" with Ryan O'neal and Bruce Dern.

 

[Runner]

The Italian Job 1969, Michael Caine, Noel Coward vs The Italian Job 2003, Mark Wahlberg, Donald Sutherland. I’m going with the original here, for the love of all things Mini Cooper. And come on, who would you rather see, Charlize Theron or Benny Hill? I already wanted a Mini Cooper since I was 5 years old, then this movie put me over the top at 10. Cried when they all had to go over the cliff.

 

[MossRoad]

The Italian Job 1969, Michael Caine, Noel Coward vs The Italian Job 2003, Mark Wahlberg, Donald Sutherland. I’m going with the original here, for the love of all things Mini Cooper. And come on, who would you rather see, Charlize Theron or Benny Hill? I already wanted a Mini Cooper since I was 5 years old, then this movie put me over the top at 10. Cried when they all had to go over the cliff.
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[WinterDeere]

And come on, who would you rather see, Charlize Theron or Benny Hill?

You had me, until here. I'll take Theron over Benny Hill.



Besides, they're both great! Why choose? Watch them both!

 

[Runner]

You had me, until here. I'll take Theron over Benny Hill.

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Besides, they're both great! Why choose? Watch them both!

Meh, I tend to prefer girls like the ones Benny liked in the 1969 movie

 

[WinterDeere]

One of the greatest stories ever put to film, and maybe more times than any other story I can recall, would be Dickens' A Christmas Carol. I try to watch at least a few versions of this every year, but with 200 films, TV episodes, or animations of this story from major studios and maybe several hundred more less well-known, I suspect very few have seen them all. Hell, Sanford and Son even did an episode called Ebenezer Sanford (1975)

Which is best? I've always been partial to the Reginald Owen version from 1938. Most seem to cite the Alstair Sim version from 1951, but I honestly never understood that. But even the Reginald Owen version is not "best", it's just a personal favorite.

Ironically, the one that's probably the most well-done and true to the book is the one Jim Carrey and Gary Oldman did with Disney in 2009. If there had to be one "best", despite being animated, this is probably the one.

There was a very cool and rather dark version done in 1971, animated short at 26 minutes, made to fit a standard half-hour TV block. It was a fun one to watch with the kids when they were young, and attention spans too short to watch a feature-length movie. That one had Alastair Sim return to do the voice of Scrooge, and again it's not the "best", just another personal favorite.

Bill Murray's "Scrooged" is also always a fun watch, 1988. Love the Bobcat Goldthwait character, in that one.

 

[WinterDeere]

Meh, I tend to prefer girls like the ones Benny liked in the 1969 movie

He did have some cute girls on that show. I just didn't think he was much to look at.

 

[masseyrider]

Meh, I tend to prefer girls like the ones Benny liked in the 1969 movie

I have to side with Benny. He brought me a lot of female joy as a kid watching his show at midnight.

 

[sd455dan]

You had me, until here. I'll take Theron over Benny Hill.

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Besides, they're both great! Why choose? Watch them both!

One of the greatest stories ever put to film, and maybe more times than any other story I can recall, would be Dickens' A Christmas Carol. I try to watch at least a few versions of this every year, but with 200 films, TV episodes, or animations of this story from major studios and maybe several hundred more less well-known, I suspect very few have seen them all. Hell, Sanford and Son even did an episode called Ebenezer Sanford (1975)

Which is best? I've always been partial to the Reginald Owen version from 1938. Most seem to cite the Alstair Sim version from 1951, but I honestly never understood that. But even the Reginald Owen version is not "best", it's just a personal favorite.

Ironically, the one that's probably the most well-done and true to the book is the one Jim Carrey and Gary Oldman did with Disney in 2009. If there had to be one "best", despite being animated, this is probably the one.

There was a very cool and rather dark version done in 1971, animated short at 26 minutes, made to fit a standard half-hour TV block. It was a fun one to watch with the kids when they were young, and attention spans too short to watch a feature-length movie. That one had Alastair Sim return to do the voice of Scrooge, and again it's not the "best", just another personal favorite.

Bill Murray's "Scrooged" is also always a fun watch, 1988. Love the Bobcat Goldthwait character, in that one.

For a funny very "Short" version I have to go with SNL Steve Martin and Martin Short.

 

[MossRoad]

For a funny very "Short" version I have to go with SNL Steve Martin and Martin Short.

 

[RobertN]

Re: Original Vanishing Point Camaro into bulldozers.

Nick of Nick's Garage in Montreal built a "Kowalski" car from a basket case, numbers matching car